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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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How did they ship this? It's clearly an unfinished release.

Better to stick to their bi-annual schedule, even if it means shipping a usable but not-quite-polished release, then polishing it in subsequent months. The previous versions, from 12.04 to 13.10, are more than adequate for anyone who can't risk upgrading to what is effectively a beta or release candidate.

> Better to stick to their bi-annual schedule, even if it means shipping a usable but not-quite-polished release, then polishing it in subsequent months.

Better for whom? Not for the people who take the LTS moniker seriously, I think.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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In fact I did that in the past weeks after being a bit weary of the Unity 8 situation. So I grabbed Debian testing and installed it. First I tried Gnome 3, then KDE and XFCE and boy, are they all ugly. I started with Gnome 3.10 (after ignoring it for most of it's existence except once in the early time) and it failed to register simple mouse clicks in a Steam game (the firs thing I tried). It's also sluggish and ugly…

To my eye, XFCE in Xubuntu looks a lot better than in ootb Debian. Might want to give that a whirl. Also you check out tint2, which is a nice 3rd party panel also used in Crunchbang.

Agree with you XFCE in Xubuntu. I just can't force myself to like Unity, stock Debian is ugly, and LXDE on Lubuntu looks flat out terrible on my 1080p monitors. Just a smeary blue and silver mess.

I don't think XFCE is perfect, but it ticks the important boxes for me. So much so that I just use it out of the box now rather than rolling my own from a vanilla OpenBox install (a fun exercise, btw).

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#106
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There's a video here[1] with some of the new features. It's not very comprehensive though. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-ins...

Did I understand correctly that at 1:25, that video is demonstrating the introduction of "live window resizing"? I haven't been following Unity closely, but I thought this feature was present in OS GUIs since about 1997?

> I thought this feature was present in OS GUIs since about 1997?

It was, until all the fancy compositing WMs like Compiz came around. Those usually had it as an option, but not as the default because it lagged way too much.

Progress!

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#107
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For those of you who find the Unity desktop to be an overweight example of "designer" solipsism, try out the alternative light weight desktops like Lubuntu (LXDE based) or Xubuntu (XFCE based). sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop

Also if you are looking for Ubuntu with Gnome 3 by default: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/trusty/relea...

As someone who loves window-manager designer solipsism as much as the stark minimalism of terminals, Gnome has improved quite a bit recently and I've come to much prefer it over Unity (and a suitable replacement for OSX). I'd normally lean towards something lightweight such as XFCE, but proper Gnome 3 support is necessary.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

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Better to stick to their bi-annual schedule, even if it means shipping a usable but not-quite-polished release, then polishing it in subsequent months. The previous versions, from 12.04 to 13.10, are more than adequate for anyone who can't risk upgrading to what is effectively a beta or release candidate.

Customer: "It doesn't work!" Project manager: "But hey, we shipped on time!"

The majority of 14.04 installations will actually occur after 14.10+ comes out, from corporations currently sitting on 12.04, who will take a few months to evaluate 14.04, and then, finally, upgrade to it. It will be stable by the time they do this.

Because these corporations behave this way, it excludes them from the set of people Canonical has to worry about pleasing at release. So LTS releases, right on release, are actually allowed to be less stable than non-LTS releases. Because the majority of their useful lifetime, when anyone that matters is actually running them, will be spent stable.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 released

#110
post #105

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... which unfortunately means you're stuck with whatever's broken.

Not necessarily. It can be fixed in point releases. This has happened before.

I've only seen bug fixes in LTS releases, not changes in functionality that would address significant issues (at least under 10.04 and 12.04). Any significant change would be in a point release (e.g. 14.10) which is not LTS - so you can't have your cake and eat it too under this model.
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