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Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

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Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#101
Imagine the kind of scum it would take to bet against Tesla's success.

Here is Musk, improving human life, clearing our air and probably taking us to Mars one day and on the opposite, we have scumbags waiting to make a quick buck and working actively, bribing legislatures to make Tesla a failure.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#102

Musk is thinking 8 steps ahead of almost everyone. While Tesla is a huge play with revolutionizing the car world, there are some other parts in play. First, his Gigafactory to produce batteries. When the other big automakers get into the electric car mindset, who are they going to buy batteries from? Musk who owns the single largest and high-tech battery factory (that produces on an enormous scale), or other battery…

Musk is thinking 8 steps ahead of almost everyone. I think he's just thinking from first principles and it's the rest of us that have convoluted reality with a panoply of suppositions and just-so stories. People like Musk only seem like they have a "reality distortion field because we're seeing his simple conclusions through the lens of our own distortions. (It's us that have the 8-steps, in a tortured circle.)

That's a really good way to put it. And combining with that, he's got enough money that he can afford far-sightedness.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#103

I, for one, welcome Elon Musk's empire! He couldn't possibly be paying for all the hype, all the influence, backing a worldwide PR campaign about himself and his stunts. He's on the media simply because he's freaking awesome compared to other millionaires industrialists. Come on, look at what the guy has done so far... we need more Elons Musks. There, end of fanboyism :-)

Also, it's clear that all he did wouldn't be possible without a superb team behind him. But he's got such a strong character that it's just a talent magnet -- if not more, probably the best motivator one institution could ever hope, specially for engineers. I think he's aware and quite pleased at all this image building as a "RL Iron Man", because it does wonders for the success of the companies. It's this kind of sp…

Actually, the film's portrayal of Iron Man/Tony Stark was based on Elon Musk.

So yeah.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#104

I, for one, welcome Elon Musk's empire! He couldn't possibly be paying for all the hype, all the influence, backing a worldwide PR campaign about himself and his stunts. He's on the media simply because he's freaking awesome compared to other millionaires industrialists. Come on, look at what the guy has done so far... we need more Elons Musks. There, end of fanboyism :-)

When Steve Jobs died they said that a long time would pass since we'd have another Steve. Well, I think they were wrong. We have some great Jobs-like guy right here... One that's easy to root for and that really shares some traits with Steve Jobs. Now excuse me while I'll go buy some Tesla shares out of pure Muskboism.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#106

I, for one, welcome Elon Musk's empire! He couldn't possibly be paying for all the hype, all the influence, backing a worldwide PR campaign about himself and his stunts. He's on the media simply because he's freaking awesome compared to other millionaires industrialists. Come on, look at what the guy has done so far... we need more Elons Musks. There, end of fanboyism :-)

When Steve Jobs died they said that a long time would pass since we'd have another Steve. Well, I think they were wrong. We have some great Jobs-like guy right here... One that's easy to root for and that really shares some traits with Steve Jobs. Now excuse me while I'll go buy some Tesla shares out of pure Muskboism.

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Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

#107

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I'm not convinced about the success of their mega battery factory; after all, wasn't there a big problem with getting rare earth materials for things like batteries a while ago? Is there enough raw material to keep it supplied?

There aren't any rare-earth materials in Tesla's batteries.

The S doesn't use any rare earth materials in its motor, either.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

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"Exactly. The military-industrial complex lives mostly on public money." That's what I said. Is there some other point that you're trying to make? Getting a government contract isn't taking donations. You deliver a service or a product and you get paid for it. The US government spends a lot of money. Cray Supercomputer sold systems to the government too, for example. I imagine that if Elon wants to build his electric…

There were cheaper alternatives, especially for light rockets (Soyuz, Dnepr, PSLV, Vega, etc). Financing him has been a political choice.

How much cheaper? We already have a small problem with Russian being the only way to get US astronauts into space. The privatization of space has been discussed for decades. Spending money on private companies is the logical choice. Jeff Bezos also got a small amount of Nasa funding. I would imagine that his company will also get future contracts.

Sorry if you don't agree with the decision but at this point we're just debating politics.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

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I'm only half way through, but so far, I find it very disappointing that CBS has not given credit to anybody else who Musk has worked with. They discuss "you decided to start a car company", but it was started by two other engineers, and Musk came in as an investor first, and joined the company later. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Motors It would have been nice to see Musk give some credit to the original vision…

Musk bought himself into the game. There is actually some more dirty little secrets to the whole story. It looks like Musk bought himself in and then overtook the whole company. In 2009 after Eberhard (real founder and CEO) was kicked out, he filed a lawsuite against Musk - it got settled for god knows how many dollars. Here is the full complaint: http://evworld.com/pdf/eberhardvmusk.pdf

The way Eberhard was treated was disgusting.

Re: Tesla and SpaceX: Elon Musk's industrial empire [video]

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Also, it's clear that all he did wouldn't be possible without a superb team behind him. But he's got such a strong character that it's just a talent magnet -- if not more, probably the best motivator one institution could ever hope, specially for engineers. I think he's aware and quite pleased at all this image building as a "RL Iron Man", because it does wonders for the success of the companies. It's this kind of sp…

Actually, the film's portrayal of Iron Man/Tony Stark was based on Elon Musk. So yeah.

I really doubt that, as Iron Man is a comic character from the start of 1960 or so.
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