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Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by Crito »

pekk wrote: post #96
Crito wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either of those, or "inciting", seem like reasonable boundaries when it is goading/facilitating/inciting specific illegal action.

So "somebody should do something about those Jews" or "I'd be one among many cheering if a bunch of these Jewesses burned alive" - not specific, so it's not inciting?

Either of those, while absolutely vile, should not be restricted speech.

I believe that while the standard currently used by US courts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action) is not ideal in all circumstances, it is largely functional and has not caused a great deal of harm. In practice, the way it plays out is that it gives hate groups enough rope to hang themselves in the court of public opinion. See: The WBC.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by SixSigma »

Jugurtha wrote: post #50
SixSigma wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've had terrorism on UK soil for 1000's of years. You may even have heard of The Gunpowder Plot. Free media means that the govt. has lost control of the conversation, they want it back. The key sentence in that piece is ' the government wanted more power to deal with material "that may not be illegal but certainly is unsavoury and may not be the sort of material that people would want to see or receive".' One man w…

_We've had terrorism on UK soil for 1000's of years. You may even have heard of The Gunpowder Plot._ An assassination attempt on a King few centuries ago, oh my... I agree partly with you on the liberty side, that's why I said I don't like what Google is doing (i.e: The way they are doing things) and by extension, the way the UK is doing things.. The way the Government here is doing things: Watch whatever you want, b…

because they aren't kids being fucked who just happen to get filmed

reportage is not the same

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by SixSigma »

arethuza wrote: post #76
Jugurtha wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am familiar with UK History, ChuckMcM. There were really ugly periods. That's why I think that if anyone should actively be against terrorism, it's the UK ! And that's why I was surprized by the passivity of the Government with the likes of Abu Hamza in the streets calling for shedding the blood of the "unfaithful".

"That's why I think that if anyone should actively be against terrorism, it's the UK" I hope that the one lesson that we as a country learned from the Troubles in Northern Ireland was that the strategy to deal with terrorists is actually to sit down and find out why they are so pissed off.

While I agree, in the case of NI it wasn't a mystery: an occupying force who enslaved the population [1], installed a settler population and terrorised the natives and ran an apartheid society using religion as a proxy for heritage, leaving in the 20C, an economic and politically disenfranchised majority.

[1] http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-irish-slave-trade-the-forgo...

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by benched »

pekk wrote: post #97
benched wrote: post #79

Benched tries to explain humans to aliens, episode 122: "It was possible to compose pictures and sound coming from a screen in such a way that some people would consider it dangerous."

I halfway agree with you but I also think about giving a platform to Hitler. While it does not make one solely responsible for Hitler, it doesn't really wash to say smugly that you are just the messenger. Is there not a middle position?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

I really, truly despise middle positions. They're just concessions made to incorrect people.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by undoware »

mangeletti wrote: post #62
undoware wrote: post #48

Let's flag them right back, shall we?

Is that the equivalent of saying, "They're shooting us. Let's taze them right back!", since they are "superflaggers" and you're just a normal "flagger"?

No, it's a euphemism for concerted political action.

Perhaps I should have said 'capture the flag'.

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