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LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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I had a friend in college -- really smart physics major -- drop acid one summer and lose the ability to do math. He needed to take a year off and finally finished his degree but was never on top of his game again. I'm not saying that always or even usually happens. But, acid is no joke and I just wanted to make sure that the inexperience reading this know that trips can go really wrong. Especially when you aren't usi…

Sorry, but that sounds like absolute bullshit.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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I had a friend in college -- really smart physics major -- drop acid one summer and lose the ability to do math. He needed to take a year off and finally finished his degree but was never on top of his game again. I'm not saying that always or even usually happens. But, acid is no joke and I just wanted to make sure that the inexperience reading this know that trips can go really wrong. Especially when you aren't usi…

> Especially when you aren't using medical grade LSD but whatever you can buy from a stranger on SilkRoad/wherever Ironically, in the heyday of Silk Road, you likely were buying medical-grade LSD if you were careful. http://www.gwern.net/Silk%20Road#lsd-case-study http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/14/4828448/silk-road-lsd-ave...

spinlock is completely misinformed on this one. Like scott_karana said, the Silk Road was the place to get high quality drugs. If I'm not mistaken, many reputable sellers on the site had their products tested for purity.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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My mother suffered from cluster headaches recently (the worst pain you can endure in life they say). Apparently mushrooms and LSD are unofficial treatments. When asked, her doctor encouraged her to use mushrooms ... Apparently a non-psychedelic version of LSD could be made but it's difficult to justify spending millions in research with the official stance regarding drugs. I'm glad change seems to come, albeit slowly…

There are already analogues of hallucinogens used to treat headaches/migraines. They've been around for decades...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumatriptan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methysergide

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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They can certainly induce a sense of the profound but I'm not sure they actually produce profundity. What's the difference?

One of the classic effects of LSD (happens to many but by no means all users) is a sensation of ego death - ie, your sense of identity and who you are in the world is either eliminated or greatly changed. This, as you might imagine, is an extremely profound feeling ('a sense of the profound'). But, after coming down, does this experience have any grounding in reality? Did it 'actually produce profundity' or was it a…

this is an interesting post, i think it points at fundamental differences in how people think. why would it be any less real if it was a drug-induced experience created entirely by the mind? your normal waking form of consciousness is a drug-induced experience created entirely by the mind, the only difference is the difference in binding affinities of your natural neurotransmitters vs. some psychoactive drug. in my opinion, the profundity IS the feeling, the experience - there is no separation. your philosophy seems to come from a paradigm of knowledge trumping experience, but mine is just the opposite.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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I've never tried micro-dosing but those interested in the idea should check out Gwern's lengthy piece on the subject: http://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing

When this got posted before on HN the consensus was likely that the LSD got destroyed before he actually took any. I would really like to see that study done with more controlled dosing/storage.

The comments to that effect were balderdash.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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post #52

The most prominent researcher in LSD therapy was Stan Grof. Look up his books - they are the definitive material for psychiatric work using psychedelics. There are experiences in the books that will blow your mind. I believe he was head of the psychiatry department at Johns Hopkins, before this research was shut down. However, it is interesting that he now appears to be a proponent of meditation and other methods, as…

Grof's work _Beyond the Brain_ is particularly interesting. From what little I have read about it, I think holotropic breathing is both physically safe and able to be discontinued at any point during the experience - unlike LSD.

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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I'm glad the taboos around psychedelics research, especially as tools for therapy, are slowly falling down- there's some fascinating stuff in there. To people who have never experienced drugs, grown up in a culture that demonizes them all indiscriminately, have a hard time wrapping their head around what they are/do exactly but are curious about them, I recommend this article by Sam Harris, a great neuroscientist[0]…

Before entering the corporate work place I never touched anything. Once my one coworker started talking about it, the whole chain revealed itself, now it's super social to go smoke a joint with my bosses after work and have a beer, I love it. I wonder how much I'm actually destroying my health by smoking weed every day, drinking coffee, and having some alcohol at least in a minor capacity. I feel as if the emotional/…

marijuana and writing code go together like song and lyric

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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post #36

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Alcohol is probably much worse than weed or coffee over the long run. It's exceedingly hard to slowly poison your liver and brain over the course of a lifetime by smoking herb. It's easier than you think to do it drinking alcohol. I'm not a teetotaler by any means. I drink a couple of glasses of something pretty much every other day. But that's about the limit of what a healthy, adult male should be drinking. Any mor…

8 glasses of wine a week, at 250 ml per glass is 2 litres. Weak 10% ABV wine would be 20 units. Normal 12.5% ABV would be 25 units. Strong 15% ABV wine would be 30 units. UK advice is no more than 3 to 4 units per day for men, with a couple of days free of alcohol and no "saving up" of units for a binge. (The old advice was 21 units per week for men.) http://www.nhs.uk/livewell/alcohol/Pages/Alcoholhome.aspx Drinking…

I don't like the denial either. I had a girlfriend who got baked everyday. She always wondered why I didn't take her seriously. I wonder though if smoking a little weed might make programming more enjoyable? Right now I find programming tedious(just following directions--exact directions). I'm a very novice programmer, and that is probably the reason?

Re: LSD, Reconsidered for Therapy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never tried micro-dosing but those interested in the idea should check out Gwern's lengthy piece on the subject: http://www.gwern.net/LSD%20microdosing

I have tried microdosing. Took a sixth of a tab and disappeared for eight hours. When I emerged from this fugue state there was all this code there that wasn't there before~ In retrospect, that probably wasn't microdosing so much as it was just coding on acid.

...how was the code?
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