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“Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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I think in many cases great founders would make terrible employees. Imagine trying to tell Steve Jobs what to do.

So if you're a giant company, hire them and don't tell them what to do. Let them run free on your dime. Own whatever they make. (Not that Twitter was a giant company in 2009, and Facebook was just getting there)

An entrepreneur with no resources will get you one exasperated entrepreneur.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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post #52

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They won't hire you but are begging to get more H1b workers...

I'll second this. I recently interviewed at a bunch of companies and couldn't get any offers. The interviews are getting ridiculous - we all know how pointless the coding questions are getting by now. Companies are too picky, in part because there's so much labor supply. I know there are loads of H1Bs around here, SV is like a third-world country.

if your comment is intented to mean 'foreigners are coming over stealing our jobs', feel free to leave it as it is. Otherwise, you might wanna rephrase what you wrote..

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll second this. I recently interviewed at a bunch of companies and couldn't get any offers. The interviews are getting ridiculous - we all know how pointless the coding questions are getting by now. Companies are too picky, in part because there's so much labor supply. I know there are loads of H1Bs around here, SV is like a third-world country.

Startups are picky, large employers are less so. Try Cisco or Intel.

> Startups are picky, large employers are less so. Try Cisco or Intel.

I hope this is sarcasm.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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Turned me down in 07' after a handful of phone interviews, flying me across the country, and 8 hours of in person interviews with 3 separate departments... but not before I got their CTO so shitfaced drunk he botched a 2AM code push to production and helped convince Zuckerbergs little sister into riding a mechanical bull. I regret nothing. edit: Worth noting I was a 22 year old self taught programmer that hadn't expe…

They won't hire you but are begging to get more H1b workers...

Yeah, how awful it would be for America if the world's brightest become citizens.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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Turned me down in 07' after a handful of phone interviews, flying me across the country, and 8 hours of in person interviews with 3 separate departments... but not before I got their CTO so shitfaced drunk he botched a 2AM code push to production and helped convince Zuckerbergs little sister into riding a mechanical bull. I regret nothing. edit: Worth noting I was a 22 year old self taught programmer that hadn't expe…

> he botched a 2AM code push to production

I have come to think that pushing code to production when your person is noticeably compromised in some way should be prevented thorough technical means. Perhaps a CAPTCHA is an acceptable solution (which probably should also get more difficult the later the hour).

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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Turned me down in 07' after a handful of phone interviews, flying me across the country, and 8 hours of in person interviews with 3 separate departments... but not before I got their CTO so shitfaced drunk he botched a 2AM code push to production and helped convince Zuckerbergs little sister into riding a mechanical bull. I regret nothing. edit: Worth noting I was a 22 year old self taught programmer that hadn't expe…

> he botched a 2AM code push to production I have come to think that pushing code to production when your person is noticeably compromised in some way should be prevented thorough technical means. Perhaps a CAPTCHA is an acceptable solution (which probably should also get more difficult the later the hour).

Tailing syslog while under the influence and patching an error should be a senior developer right of passage.

;)

http://www.wired.com/business/2008/10/googles-mail-go/

edit: As an aside, it was entertaining watching a drunk man use Emacs under the gun.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't hire you but are begging to get more H1b workers...

I'll second this. I recently interviewed at a bunch of companies and couldn't get any offers. The interviews are getting ridiculous - we all know how pointless the coding questions are getting by now. Companies are too picky, in part because there's so much labor supply. I know there are loads of H1Bs around here, SV is like a third-world country.

>SV is like a third-world country

???

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

#108
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think in many cases great founders would make terrible employees. Imagine trying to tell Steve Jobs what to do.

So if you're a giant company, hire them and don't tell them what to do. Let them run free on your dime. Own whatever they make. (Not that Twitter was a giant company in 2009, and Facebook was just getting there)

Google tried to do this right up until Larry took over as CEO. It can sometimes succeed spectacularly, like with GMail and Chrome. It can also fail miserably, like with Wave, Google Video, and Buzz.

I think ultimately the problem is that you end up lacking a competitive advantage against startups, who are more highly incentivized to take risks and under fewer constraints (legal, PR, infrastructure, etc.) Most of the ideas that Google put out during that 2004-2011 period were really stuff that could've been done as startups and would've probably been even better products as such, but because Google was able to put them out for free they basically "strangled" the startup ecosystem. Witness how the much-decried Reader cancellation has opened the door for Feedly to really take off.

One of the biggest lessons for me, having worked at Google from 2009-present, is just how context-dependent strategy is. It's been really interesting to see Larry make (or try to make) certain changes in company culture, understand why they're being made and that Google and the world as a whole is probably better off for them, and yet also realize that they aren't very good for me as an entrepreneurially-minded Google employee.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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It's interesting how neither of the founders fit any of the stereotypical valley founder profiles. They don't look like Mark Zuckerberg, they are older, Brian Acton barely used twitter, and his tech background is more traditional (C, C++, Perl, etc).

Thats good.. because stereotypes for people are a stupid thing.. human beings will break all of them.. Someday it will be a elderly woman, a kid, etc.. The Ocidental culture has a severe problem dealing with the impermanence and the unpredictable.. we need to get over it.. more zen-budhism, please?! :)

Last I checked, Buddhism was a caste religion.

Re: “Facebook turned me down” (2009)

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> Turned me down in 07 Telling the story now is an interesting historical anecdote, but you probably didn't blog or tweet about it in 2007, right? I can't quite understand why Brian Acton was so public about the companies that turned him down. Isn't this bad for him if he's in a job search? Doesn't this send out a negative message (assuming any employer bothered to look)?

You could see it as a badge of honor that Google or another large company, which purportedly hires only the best of the best, deemed you worthy of an interview. The mere fact that you have been considered for a position might raise your standing with potential employers [citation needed].

Nah, Google interviews anyone with a pulse.
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