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Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

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Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#101

>Google really needs to work harder at protecting the privacy of its users. They would need to start protecting it first.

Google does work extremely hard trying to protect the privacy of its users. Yes, we might miss the boat sometimes but let's not make blanket statements like yours. D: I work for Google.

If I have a paid-for Google Apps account, can I disable this?

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#103
post #3

The worst thing about things like this happening is the feeling of helplessness when you can't reach anyone in the company or when they just say "it's not a problem".

Or the company shill shows up and burns through four HN accounts trying to spread FUD. https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ritikk https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ritikk2 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ritikk3 https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=ritikk4 (Should I add the 5th link or wait for him to create that ID as well?)

I'd say this is massive if "ritikk" is actually employed by Google. Would be interesting to trace their IP addresses?

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#104
I discovered this by accident some time ago as well but I've always appreciated the convenience - when I add an event using the Quick Add dialog, it's very useful for me to be able to say "Movie Night with alice@example.com" and have it show up on Alice's calendar automatically. I use it all the time at work and at home and it saves me time from having to go to the dedicated event creation page to add people.

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#105
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The recipient's calendar. So, let's say example.org run an Exchange server. I create a reminder saying "Tell phil@example.org he's a jerk". Phil will now see that in his Outlook calendar.

Right. So you write "Tell Phil at example dot org he's a jerk," or "Tell phil, example, org he's a jerk," or something else that makes sense to humans but not machines.

That's terrible UX though. The point of using a computer is to make things easier - at least on the first try the program needs to ask you if you wish to enable automated invites (it could offer the option to "enable automated invites for only this address" too).

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#106

So the way to solve this is to create a note on my calendar with "Remind to complain about this to vic.gundotra@google.com larry.page@google.com" ?

What about we flood their calendar about this? ;)

Pretty sure this is illegal. :(

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you be so kind and provide your definition of "privacy"? The first thing that comes to mind is how much information about users Google itself stores and processes. This happened earlier and faster than people learned and understood the consequences of. The next thing would be how the real name policy can make it difficult to keep someones Youtube-habits separated from a gmail/g+ account. For you, do these two c…

I am not looking for a debate here but your points are related to Google's algorithms analyzing user data. Google developers do not have access to that data and Google does not reveal data to anyone. Yes, I consider our handling of this data a success of our privacy engineers.

Thanks for the answer. I understand that times have changed and that revealing that you're from Google is not as fun as it used to be.

The distinction you seem to be making between data that Google has and data that is "revealed to anyone" is misleading in my opinion. No matter who has the data, "privacy" is concerned.

Also I need to call you out on your blanket statements that Google developers have no access to that data (clearly, some would, as part of their jobs, also [1]), and that data is not revealed to anyone (seriously?). As of January 2014, this position is not defensible and you might have to face a more nuanced, and possibly inconvenient reality.

http://gawker.com/5637234/gcreep-google-engineer-stalked-tee...

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not looking for a debate here but your points are related to Google's algorithms analyzing user data. Google developers do not have access to that data and Google does not reveal data to anyone. Yes, I consider our handling of this data a success of our privacy engineers.

Thanks for the answer. I understand that times have changed and that revealing that you're from Google is not as fun as it used to be. The distinction you seem to be making between data that Google has and data that is "revealed to anyone" is misleading in my opinion. No matter who has the data, "privacy" is concerned. Also I need to call you out on your blanket statements that Google developers have no access to tha…

Thanks for understanding.

The reference you point out was a one-off event from 2010 though, and a lot of our systems and checks have developed in the subsequent years to prevent a recurrence.

I'll concede the point about my blanket statement especially when talking about NSA and Government espionage though. All I can say is Google does fight in courts against that. I wish I had a good way to stop spying completely. All we can do is continue to make our encryption stronger.

Re: Google Calendar Unexpectedly Leaks Private Information

#109

So the way to solve this is to create a note on my calendar with "Remind to complain about this to vic.gundotra@google.com larry.page@google.com" ?

Google doesn't care about any of this, otherwise it would have been fixed in 2010. But if you really want to add them their e-mail addresses are:

vicg@google.com page@google.com

The calendar is going to be replaced by Timely, the next generation version (more feature-rich then the current one) Bigtop will replace the GMail interface.

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