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1.85% of Steam users run Linux

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Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#101
Don't want to rain on the parade but - What is the error margin of this poll/survey? A margin of error of +/-2% would be very good for most polls.

There is definitely a need for a 'third' choice when it comes to desktop gaming platforms, hopefully Linux can take off sometime in the future.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#102
post #101

Don't want to rain on the parade but - What is the error margin of this poll/survey? A margin of error of +/-2% would be very good for most polls. There is definitely a need for a 'third' choice when it comes to desktop gaming platforms, hopefully Linux can take off sometime in the future.

Thats data that is automaticly gathered by steam - it's not a "survey" where you can pick OS.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

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post #102
post #101

Don't want to rain on the parade but - What is the error margin of this poll/survey? A margin of error of +/-2% would be very good for most polls. There is definitely a need for a 'third' choice when it comes to desktop gaming platforms, hopefully Linux can take off sometime in the future.

Thats data that is automaticly gathered by steam - it's not a "survey" where you can pick OS.

Is it opt-in or opt-out?

Edit: Nvm found my answer

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

Its optional. Also other people have mentioned that steam randomly chooses users to take part in the survey and then asks them if they want to participate.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#104

I think the big story here is that ~4% of Steam users run Vista. The year of the Linux desktop is very, very, very far away.

The Linux desktop will come when Microsoft loses its leverage over hardware manufacturers and they start to preinstall linux and stop putting up barriers to adoption (e.g. remove windows -> lose warranty). It's already better than the windows desktop (xubuntu anyway, not unity, however). The barriers to uptake are no longer technical and haven't been for some years. It's all market + legal now.

Remember the netbook craze? They put linux on there, but they didn't start to sell in volume until they replaced it with windows.

When people buy something in a PC form factor they expect it to run windows. Linux on the desktop will not happen in a traditional desktop form factor because people don't want it and/or don't see the point. The one possible exception are chromebooks, because a laptop that only runs chrome and is therefore cheaper / lighter is something people see the point of.

Besides, linux as mass market OS has already happened, it's called android.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#105
I took the survey while I was playing DotA2 on Ubuntu, but since taking the survey I no longer use Steam on Linux. The main reasons are that only 4/50 games in my library are available on Linux, and because graphics performance still sucks (Intel HD4400).

I'll try it out again whenever a new game is available or when there's a graphics driver update, but at the moment I'd much rather reboot into Windows than pull my hair out over how bad Linux is for gaming.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#106

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The Linux desktop will come when Microsoft loses its leverage over hardware manufacturers and they start to preinstall linux and stop putting up barriers to adoption (e.g. remove windows -> lose warranty). It's already better than the windows desktop (xubuntu anyway, not unity, however). The barriers to uptake are no longer technical and haven't been for some years. It's all market + legal now.

Dell is preinstalling Ubuntu. So is Asus.

Buying a Dell with Ubuntu preinstalled is a PITA because you have to purchase it as a business which apparently means you lose all your consumer rights. I found this out the hard way when I was told that returning my XPS 13 would cost me a 15% "restocking fee".

Besides, they're preinstalling 12.04, and upgrading to newer versions (in my experience) requires blacklisting kernel modules and setting kernel params.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#107

I think the big story here is that ~4% of Steam users run Vista. The year of the Linux desktop is very, very, very far away.

You didn't quite explain what you want to say here.

Questions that came to my mind when I read your comment:

- Is the number of Vista/Linux users declining or increasing?

- How long is Steam for Vista/Linux available?

- How many games are available for Vista/Linux?

My expectation is that Vista's falling, while Linux rises in that statistic.

I'd say the fact that Steam is 'new' for Linux and relatively restricted/obscure for now (Ubuntu centric) the percentage isn't too bad.

Given that a lot of games (mostly the oh-so-expensive so-called AAA titles in my experience) are still Windows only or Windows/OS X only, I find the number still quite interesting and not really disappointing.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#108
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I would too if AMD made decent graphic drivers for Linux!

I've found they've gotten pretty good. I have a 7970 and a couple of R290 GPUs, as well as whatever ATI GPU is in my laptop (a 6000 series Mobility GPU), they all seem to work fine under Linux. Admittedly, I don't do a lot of gaming, though I just bought a few new games in the winter sale, since they've added so many Linux games (and some of them are freakin' awesome games). I haven't actually tried any of the really…

I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650(not very powerful and quite old now) and I can play Dota 2,Left4Dead and other games on windows with no problem at all,while on Linux(Ubuntu 13.10) I can barely open the games.

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

#109

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Yes, I use Ubuntu but I am considering moving to Debian or Suse. To be fair, changing resolution does not always require a restart (but for my multi-monitor setup it often does). I can do most changes without a restart with Nvidia not AMD. Also, why should I change the resolution within the driver software...why not do it in the desktop like Windows or OSX. I am really curious to know how Intel graphics drivers work…

> I am really curious to know how Intel graphics drivers work on linux. Intel seems to be more linux friendly compared to AMD/Nvidia. Is the support a lot better? They ‘just work’ – you can change the resolution/screen setup any way you like at any time, either using xrandr directly or one of the many frontends (each DE usually has one called ‘Display Settings’). Of course, the drawback is that these are still just I…

My intel gpu:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

actually doesn't just work. I think it says "DP error slip" or something similar. That reminds me I need to submit a bug report ;)

Re: 1.85% of Steam users run Linux

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post #86

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I use xubuntu with xmonad window manager and it works fine with a tweak (same tweak for fullscreen flash videos though).

I'm running Kubuntu with KDE, but fullscreen flash videos are also very bugged, how did you fix them?

It depends on what do you mean by "bugged". I don't use KDE, but I could probably help you figure out what's wrong. My email should be in my profile.
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