Why PHP continues to thrive in the age of the PaaS

Post by Shorel » Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 3:22 PM UTC

pallandt wrote: post #22

mscottmcbee wrote: post #2

I don't do much web development, just a product once every year or so to play around with an idea. Always in PHP. A few months ago I was asked by a close friend to help them with a not-so-serious site. I decided that I'd use Rails, because, hey, I've heard nothing but good about it from HN and the like. I was absolutely blown away by how much work it required to get started. That, and how painful it was to explain to…

If you were to start with a nearly blank slate in regards to your PHP knowledge + Laravel as a framework for example, throw in Composer, learning about Eloquent ORM and so on, you'd likely be facing the same reaction. I'd like to also point out that if you want to do software dev by the book applying various sofware engineering principles and not just stringing something together that works, you're pretty much forced…

Deploying small changes with Laravel is very, very easy, and that's the parent post main complaint about RoR.

Post by Shorel » Mon, Dec 09, 2013, 3:26 PM UTC

tokenizer wrote: post #15

fleitz wrote: post #6

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Yes, that's because PHP operates at thermodynamic equilibrium and creating order from those states requires the expenditure of energy. Rails is great for creating a site with a form where people can upload images, it's a 20 to 30 minute project in rails, pretty much just take any rails blog tutorial and add paperclip. (Note, it's not a 20 minute project for anyone who doesn't already know rails) Rails is not for non-…

Funny, but not necessarily true. With PHP, I do as you say and spend, if I know the language, 1 hour max setting up a CRUD list/view/admin. With Ruby, I have to spend, at least 3 months learning the concepts behind the Rails framework and what the article OP mentions just to get to that 20 to 30 minute mark. If anything it's all meaningless, and what everyone should understand is that while the closer you are to the…

With Laravel: php artisan generate:scaffold some_type --fields="..."

That's not one hour. That's one minute.

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