Want people to trust you? Try apologising for the rain

Post by StavrosK » Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 3:51 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #75

smsm42 wrote: post #70

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For me that's the most irritating feature of hpmor's protagonist. I understand that's probably intentional - so it's working. I wouldn't really trust more a person that claims exclusive agency - I'd probably trust him much less as if he doesn't respect me enough to assign me agency - how can I be sure he respects me enough to not violate my trust? You don't feel to bad if you make a promise to an NPC character in a v…

I think it's not so much that HPMoR!Harry claims exclusive agency, as that the plot has railroaded him away from any of the setting's other agent-y characters (or, at least, agent-y characters with compatible-enough-to-engage-in-trade utility functions; HPMoR!Quirrelmort is more of an agent-y Other-Optimizer.) HPMoR!Lucius Malfoy is pretty agent-y, for example, but Harry doesn't get to talk to him much. When he did i…

Post by moocowduckquack » Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 4:18 PM UTC

gadders wrote: post #90

derefr wrote: post #21

Reminds me of the Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality quote: "Of course it was my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything." Which is to say, if I hear someone apologizing for the weather, one likely presumption would be that they're just assuming fault as a matter of etiquette, or some latent self-hating tendency... but another, more interesting, possibility is that they're apolo…

Or they could be British. We apologise for everything.

Post by loceng » Sat, Oct 19, 2013, 9:27 PM UTC

saraid216 wrote: post #88

loceng wrote: post #84

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I want to bring health and wellness to the world. I'm working my way towards that. It's pretty ambitious. Learning how to not always feel the weight on my shoulders and chest though.

> Learning how to not always feel the weight on my shoulders and chest though. I want to give you advice on how to do that, but because it's so hard to tell what the recipe for success actually is, I hesitate for fear that the advice would end up being counterproductive. So, for what it's worth, and with a grain of salt: I've found that the pattern that is functional for me is a cyclical manic-depression. I come up w…

Post by T-hawk » Sun, Oct 20, 2013, 1:51 AM UTC

gadders wrote: post #90

derefr wrote: post #21

Reminds me of the Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality quote: "Of course it was my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything." Which is to say, if I hear someone apologizing for the weather, one likely presumption would be that they're just assuming fault as a matter of etiquette, or some latent self-hating tendency... but another, more interesting, possibility is that they're apolo…

Or they could be British. We apologise for everything.

Post by rickhanlonii » Mon, Oct 21, 2013, 2:18 AM UTC

vectorjohn wrote: post #63

rickhanlonii wrote: post #57

> How trustworthy are these results? The accumulated findings from several experiments help build a convincing case, but unfortunately the field study - which had the potential to provide the most persuasive evidence - is seriously flawed. The actor apologised (sic) for the rain then asked to borrow a phone, or in the comparison condition he just asked to borrow the phone. There was no proper control condition. This…

The addition of "(sic)" is non-useful, as that is an accepted spelling in British English, which is where this post comes from. Try searching, I don't know, anywhere else on that page. It was not a mistake.