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To-Do Lists Don't Work

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Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#101
Definitely agree with the "calendar" part. It's hard to create some sort of week plan (or any sort of schedule/plan) with many to-do list types, and it was one of the reasons we developed Thymer back then.

I'm sure not everyone agrees with the importance of a calendar-like component, but it definitely helps to be more realistic about the tasks I plan to do. It also feels like a natural way to prioritize tasks (well, more natural than assigning a random priority number or letter to it, anyway).

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#103

Can we get "(for me)" added to the topic here? There's no such thing as an organizational system that works (or doesn't work) for every person out there. I personally use Taskwarrior[1] for work (because I'm in the terminal all the time anyways), and aside from a couple of edge cases, it's the simplest and most effective thing I've found. Our group uses a JIRA[2] instance that I've customized the heck out of to make…

Can we get "(for me)" added to the topic here? Such a disclaimer (or rather "for some people") could be added to almost every lifehack / productivity tip / work habit / fitness technique / etc. Work at home / in the office / in the cafe / for yourself / in a team / pair programming / standing desks / morning walks / coffee brewing / IDE tools / soylent / fasting / feasting / work-life balance / pretty much everything…

Well, you can make absolute statements without the implicit "for me" or "for some people" once you've done proper studies that support them...

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#104
post #52

I usually keep a local "todo" list in each project I'm on. It helps me focus, and if I'm away from a project for a while it helps me figure out what I've done (I seldom remove old entries, as it gives me a sense of history). Like most processes, it's better to keep something like this lightweight. "Nested todos" are about as fancy as things get. I also check the todo lists into the project. Sure, it makes things a li…

I am a fan of this setup. I call them project logs. As you mentioned they are great for when you are away from the project for a while and need to get up to speed.

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#105

Can we get "(for me)" added to the topic here? There's no such thing as an organizational system that works (or doesn't work) for every person out there. I personally use Taskwarrior[1] for work (because I'm in the terminal all the time anyways), and aside from a couple of edge cases, it's the simplest and most effective thing I've found. Our group uses a JIRA[2] instance that I've customized the heck out of to make…

Can we get "(for me)" added to the topic here? Such a disclaimer (or rather "for some people") could be added to almost every lifehack / productivity tip / work habit / fitness technique / etc. Work at home / in the office / in the cafe / for yourself / in a team / pair programming / standing desks / morning walks / coffee brewing / IDE tools / soylent / fasting / feasting / work-life balance / pretty much everything…

Agreed. There's often a pedantic need to point out some structural "flaw" in a statement and dismiss it, vs. making an effort to gain insight from its message.

"All Cretans are liars" - Epimenides

The logical robot concludes that because Epimenides was Cretan, the statement is a logical contradiction (hah, got you!) and nothing can be learned. A wiser man realizes he should be wary when in Crete.

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#106
Calendars work when other people are depending on your decisions, and it's basically more important to make a decision than anything else. Everything is driven by the need to make that decision. The decision may be imperfect, but the overall system can tolerate that most of the time - and when it cannot, it appears as a schedule problem.

Calendars fail when you need to perform labor to complete a piece of work, and you don't know how long it'll take. A to-do list is a detailed list of tasks to complete, generally in a specific order, to complete a piece of work. That work is probably part of a larger piece of work. There are dependencies between pieces of work. Times, if they exist in the to-do list, are generally estimates.

The only way to put tasks into a calendar, if you want the calendar to reflect reality, is to pad out each task with extra time. That way, the schedule doesn't fail.

However, if you padded out your to-do list with enough extra time so you could fit it into a calendar that could remain largely unchanged for the next year... your productivity would be pretty low. It would be a pretty relaxing job, however.

There are problems when these two different ways to organize work aren't reconciled correctly. You have work crunches, where people are forced to work late, or you have calendar failures where your obligations to outside parties aren't met, or both.

Both are intolerable, and a sign of bad management.

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#107

Can we get "(for me)" added to the topic here? There's no such thing as an organizational system that works (or doesn't work) for every person out there. I personally use Taskwarrior[1] for work (because I'm in the terminal all the time anyways), and aside from a couple of edge cases, it's the simplest and most effective thing I've found. Our group uses a JIRA[2] instance that I've customized the heck out of to make…

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Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#108

All of the "problems" that he listed of to do lists are solved by using the "Getting things done" method from David Allen. I personally hate the method of blocking off tasks in a calendar because it is: a) Not agile (can't adjust your priorities quickly). So you get sick one day then you have to adjust your entire calendar for the next month? b) Very cumbersome and totally not suited to the concept of lists of things…

If you do lose one day, and everything is full, then you do have to adjust stuff anyway, and it forces you to do that.

You don't put things on calendar that you might do - you put things that you will or must do then; and it is important that if something (like that sickness) means that you won't be able to do all X things, then you can know early and choose appropriately which one you won't do in the expected time.

Also, in your Techcrunch example - it makes you informed about the consequences; if you get an option to do a large thing then you'll see what other important things you will be displacing and is it really worth it compared to those other tasks.

Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

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post #52

I usually keep a local "todo" list in each project I'm on. It helps me focus, and if I'm away from a project for a while it helps me figure out what I've done (I seldom remove old entries, as it gives me a sense of history). Like most processes, it's better to keep something like this lightweight. "Nested todos" are about as fancy as things get. I also check the todo lists into the project. Sure, it makes things a li…

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Re: To-Do Lists Don't Work

#110
post #52

I usually keep a local "todo" list in each project I'm on. It helps me focus, and if I'm away from a project for a while it helps me figure out what I've done (I seldom remove old entries, as it gives me a sense of history). Like most processes, it's better to keep something like this lightweight. "Nested todos" are about as fancy as things get. I also check the todo lists into the project. Sure, it makes things a li…

exactly! todo lists help ALOT. I usually use trello for this. It really helps me remember on monday what i was doing on friday and what needs to get done. None of the complains in the article make sense to me. When i make a todo list, i usually have a sense of direction so I dont get stuck in the "choices choices" problem. Besides, didn't anyone teach you how to prioritize stuff? "Urgent, Important; Important, not ur…

What do you do when you don't have a sense of direction?

I wish a todo list would make me do things I wouldn't dare do. Like things you don't usually write in a todo list.

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