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Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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A friend evaluated these folks about 4 months ago and concluded there was too much hype. Since none of this has happened, this is a pattern of not following through. You be the judge.

Can you be more detailed?

Nope. It's pretty basic bro code: 'Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself' - B.F.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Adding a few of my own peeves: 4. Bitcoin is inherently deflationary, which is an awful idea if you talk to anyone who knows anything about money 5. Bitcoin is fundamentally backed by pointlessly wasting CPU cycles and wasting energy trying to reverse hashes.

re: 4. Deflation is bad for the asset rich, but good for the asset poor. Inflation is good for the rich and bad for the poor. Those who usually spout the 'inflation is better than deflation' argument are the rich. The argument that inflationary expectation is better than deflationary expectation because during period of deflation purchasing stops because 'it will be cheaper tomorrow' is flawed because such periods of…

You absolutely have 4 backwards. Deflation is good for those rich enough to have money sitting around, and who can make money just by sitting on it and not investing it. Inflation is bad for the rich because suddenly they have to DO something with the money, or it disappears.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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I find it surprising that so many people here are reluctant to try soylent and afraid to "risk their health" because it is made by "a bunch of 20-something computer scientists". Do you really think the traditional food industry as it is is looking out for you? Most people I know have terribly unhealthy diets and almost anything that anyone put any thought in will be better for them. I'm not saying Soylent is perfect…

At least the traditional food industry continues to be in the business of producing stuff that is mostly food. This is a radically different concept, as it is synthesized from the raw nutritional components.

Whether it is safe or not, this is a great case study for nutritionists. But I don't want to be a guinea pig.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Adding a few of my own peeves: 4. Bitcoin is inherently deflationary, which is an awful idea if you talk to anyone who knows anything about money 5. Bitcoin is fundamentally backed by pointlessly wasting CPU cycles and wasting energy trying to reverse hashes.

4. Last time I checked, gold was still very valuable. And it has been used for what... Thousands of years? The economies of the world did just fine without forced inflation and consumerism. 5. Printing paper money wastes way more resources. And how is using energy to create something of value a bad idea anyway? Bitcoin doesn't even require that you use a contaminating type of energy, for all I know you could be hashi…

Most transactions now do not involve cash, and credit card transactions are in fact far more energy-efficient than bitcoin transactions. And it is not just using energy to "create something of value"--it is an artificial waste of energy barrier.

Furthermore, there will be an energy cost to transactions even after no substantial number of bitcoins are mined, since just verifying transactions requires wasteful hashing.

The solar energy part is totally irrelevant--if you happen to have a solar panel sitting around, you could just as easily use it for actual work (and offset coal burning) rather than computing hashes.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Shitty mobile pix... Store-brand ingredients and nutrition info: http://screencast.com/t/KhqgkXT73Ofe Major-brand: http://screencast.com/t/KhqgkXT73Ofe

Same link twice, friend.

Thanks for the feedback.

http://screencast.com/t/4dRnEZuw

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Oh, you're one of the people that believe that a perceived "sugar rush" has something to do with diabetic glycemic excursions? They're entirely different phenomena. Dismissed. But thanks for the irrelevant link!

What is it that you think sowhatquestion means by "sugar rush"? My guess is you think he means hyperactivity. What is the difference between a diabetic glycemic excursion (what you said) and a postprandial glycemic excursion (what I linked)?

I'm going to answer your first question with a question: what do you think he means by "nasty crash"? Because I guarantee it's not what happens post-excursion.

There's no difference -- postprandial excursions are a diabetic phenomenon, and have nothing to do with what non-diabetic individuals think of as the effect of sugar and fiber on their health and mood.

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So, marketing?

Well, sure, everything can be thrown under "marketing," because obviously if no one knew about it no one would be talking about it.

Not everything can be thrown under it, only.. marketing can. Sure, marketing may be why Ferrari sell cars, but that doesn't mean that marketing is the only difference between a Ferrari and a Ford.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Just wanted to correct this understanding. Just because I sell something doesn't make me exempt from the legal consequences of my actions prior. If I negligently claim that a product will make you healthier and it cripples you, then you can sue me regardless of whether I still own the product. Similarly, I could be prosecuted for dishonest advertising type offences (which aren't wiped clean simply by selling a busine…

So the founders are personally responsible for the actions of their corporation?

No, the founders are personally responsible for their own actions.

The corporate veil may protect them from liabilities of the company (barring fraud/breach of directors' duties), however in this particular instance we have a founder, Rob Rhinehart, who seems to have done most of his marketing and made most of his claims personally. That is, Rob, not Soylent Nominees Ltd, made the statements.

Therefore, if he has breached laws, civil penalty provisions or acted negligently in doing so, he is personally liable.

Source: I recently acted for a home owner who sued her (incorporated) builder in negligence (for building a house which fell down). The company was unfortunately insolvent. Luckily, the founder/director of the company made a number of claims about the expertise and abilities of the building company on the company website (which he hosted personally). We sued the director personally.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Just wanted to correct this understanding. Just because I sell something doesn't make me exempt from the legal consequences of my actions prior. If I negligently claim that a product will make you healthier and it cripples you, then you can sue me regardless of whether I still own the product. Similarly, I could be prosecuted for dishonest advertising type offences (which aren't wiped clean simply by selling a busine…

> Just because I sell something doesn't make me exempt from the legal consequences of my actions prior. Actually, yes, selling your stake in the corporation that was the legally-responsible actor does mean that you are no longer at any financial risk for the actions of the corporation prior to you selling it, at least not in the main way that you were prior to selling it (that the consequences imposed on the corporat…

This is partially correct.

If you manage to sell the corporate entity to a third party without making any warranties about latent claims, you will not be concerned about the corporation's liability. And the purchaser of that corporation is pretty foolish.

However you are still responsible for your own personal liability when you operated the company. Did you breach your directors' duties? Did you commit fraud? Did you sign a guarantee for the obligations of the corporation?

There are three ways to become personally liable off the top of my head. I'm sure there are several more.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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To add to this: I was in the same boat. Tried Nestle Boost because I didn't want to wait for Soylent. It left me hungry. Reportedly, Soylent doesn't do that. I also tried Ensure very briefly, and got the same impression, but I'm only like 98% sure that, like Boost, it will also leave me hungry.

I've been having Glucerna for breakfast every day for the past two months and it hasn't left me hungry. I don't know how well it works out as a complete meal replacement, but at least as a breakfast it's filling (and I'm normally a heavy breakfast eater whose very sensitive to hunger).

With a bit of patience, you can also just train yourself to break your fast later in the day.
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