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UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

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Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

B.ritish O.nline L.imiting L.ude O.bjectionable C.ontent S.ystem: B.O.L.L.O.C.S

[...] [O]bjectionable [C]ontent for [K]ids [S]ystem ?

heh... Yeah - I couldn't think of a [K] ;)

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#102
You know what would make a lot of sense? Install these filters on every new device sold in the UK. Make them configurable, and even uninstallable, but defaulting to "blocked". That way if and when people choose to unblock something, it's a private matter between them and their device.

This achieves both the stated goal of protecting people from malicious content, and the freedom of people to consume malicious content, if they want to, in private.

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#103

This deserves a lot more of a response but for now I'll just leave this: Liberty is about the ability of the individual to do things that others disapprove of. You don't need liberty if everyone else approves of your actions. As a corollary, the exercise of liberty does not require a justification, because it's a liberty, practicality or "usefulness" or what-have-you play no part in it. It's onerous to require someon…

You make a number of excellent points, but the distinction you're drawing is actually more broad than just justification of liberty.

Anytime one makes a differentiation between two things, beauty and ugliness, skill and stupidity, light and dark, one is making a value judgement. The act of segregation, in and of itself, implies evaluation, weighing and judgement.

I believe that prejudgement (or prejudice) is antithetical to democracy. The idea that looking at porn should require justification is so wrong-headed I don't even know where to begin.

Sometimes I feel like in the 21st century, our industry (tech) is focused on making dreams come true, whereas our body politic is only interested in rehashing the same problems we've dealt with since the dawn of time. Why the hell are we even discussing a pornography filter when there are so many real, gigantic problems out there.

Maddening.

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#105
Sorry for the 19th century text wall, but this is so pertinent that it hurts.

"Next in importance to personal freedom is immunity from suspicions, and jealous observation. Men may be without restraints upon their liberty: they may pass to and fro at pleasure: but if their steps are tracked by spies and informers, their words noted down for crimination, their associates watched as conspirators, who shall say that they are free? Nothing is more revolting to Englishmen than the espionage which forms part of the administrative system of continental despotisms. It haunts men like an evil genius, chills their gaiety, restrains their wit, casts a shadow over their friendships, and blights their domestic hearth.

The freedom of a country may be measured by its immunity from this baleful agency. Rulers who distrust their own people, must govern in a spirit of absolutism; and suspected subjects will be ever sensible of their bondage."

The Constitutional History Of England Vol II (1863), pg. 288

by T. E. May

http://archive.org/stream/constitutionalhi029622mbp#page/n31...

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#107
2010-2012 may well have been "peak internet".

Three years ago, or so, I was thinking about[1] the idea that we may have been witnessing something akin to peak oil, or peak credit.

At that time I was discussing it in terms of network fragmentation and net neutrality ... but a collection of different censorship regimes around the world degrades it[2] just as well...

[1] http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2010/12/peak-internet.h... [2] "it" being the "homogenous, globally routed Internet as we have known it."

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#108

This deserves a lot more of a response but for now I'll just leave this: Liberty is about the ability of the individual to do things that others disapprove of. You don't need liberty if everyone else approves of your actions. As a corollary, the exercise of liberty does not require a justification, because it's a liberty, practicality or "usefulness" or what-have-you play no part in it. It's onerous to require someon…

You make a number of excellent points, but the distinction you're drawing is actually more broad than just justification of liberty. Anytime one makes a differentiation between two things, beauty and ugliness, skill and stupidity, light and dark, one is making a value judgement. The act of segregation, in and of itself, implies evaluation, weighing and judgement. I believe that prejudgement (or prejudice) is antithet…

"Anytime one makes a differentiation between two things, beauty and ugliness, skill and stupidity, light and dark...."

a continuation of the quoted part above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYhmATD8hLk

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#109
post #51

This deserves a lot more of a response but for now I'll just leave this: Liberty is about the ability of the individual to do things that others disapprove of. You don't need liberty if everyone else approves of your actions. As a corollary, the exercise of liberty does not require a justification, because it's a liberty, practicality or "usefulness" or what-have-you play no part in it. It's onerous to require someon…

And some Americans dismiss their constitution as out of date. It seems more relevant than ever.

Even so, there are a lot of flaws within it unless some people are considered 3/5ths of persons on the basis of their skin.

The idea is to transcend, not regress…

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#110
post #65

The terrifying reality of censorship, as told through the lens of that of China: "I knew of some Chinese migrants to Australia who watched a Tiananmen 10-year anniversary documentary, and apparently tears just streamed down their faces. They had no clue that it ever happened ."

Do you have any source for this? Google shows nothing and Duck Duck Go only points me to a reddit thread with that exact same comment and no source. I mean just about the specific case, I know that the Tiananmen square incident is unknown to almost all Chinese.

The source is the reddit comment. It was a reply to an askreddit thread.
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