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Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by ry0ohki »

lloeki wrote: post #55
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

> they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? As long as it stays in "promotions" tab, I could care less, as this is where they belong. If that's the case that's actually a smart move to introduce in-maillist ads without polluting the "real" inbox. As soon as they flow out of that bucket, we're entering Twitter's dickbar levels of dorkiness.

I still have to keep all of my inboxes at zero. Every inbox must still be checked in case there is something mis-directed. I go out of my way to unsubscribe from most promotions, so no, even in the promotions box this is not welcome for me.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by abenga »

workbench wrote: post #86
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

> Uses free product from a company thats only profit comes from advertisements and selling user data and yet you're surprised and upset when they use that free product to show you ads… please don't tell me you actually fell for that "Don't be evil" BS

What's "evil" about following the exact same business model that you've been following all along? It's not like they sneaked this up on us. It is public knowledge what they do for revenue. They provide you with simple ways to migrate your data off the service if you're displeased with it. You can connect to your inbox via IMAP and read your mail without seeing the ads (unless these new ads will be sent to that inbox, in which case even I would think that's going too far).

Is it so hard for people to get that some people actually understand that what Google sells is personalized ads based on what they know about us, and actually consider it a fair trade for the services we receive in return? Not everyone is ignorant about this. We just don't care.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by harrytuttle »

OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

Did you pay for it?

No.

Quit complaining, pay for it (Google Apps), or move on.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#104

Post by mmahemoff »

Kurts wrote: post #94
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

Twitter ads look like tweets, Facebook ads look like Facebook posts, and of course search ads look like search results, at least in Gmail they have their own designated area. They replace the webclip ads when the "promotions" tab is enabled: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2013/06/ads-in-gmails-promo...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_advertising

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

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Post by ohwp »

harrytuttle wrote: post #103
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #29

So this is why they wanted to "help us" sort out our inbox? I feel defrauded into believing their motivation. Like suddenly realizing I was given a lift solely because my presence in the car allowed the driver to enter my estate or place of work. This is wrong.

Did you pay for it? No. Quit complaining, pay for it (Google Apps), or move on.

Agreed. I think it's a little naive to think that a free service doesn't have to make money.

But! Without users Google won't have a business at all. So they should be careful with disruptive advertisement.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#106

Post by rfnslyr »

weland wrote: post #80
dendory wrote: post #39

Email used to be fun, then spammers came, then good email providers added spam filters and made email fun again, now email providers are sending us spam. The circle is almost complete.

> now email providers are sending us spam Mine isn't. Get used to it: if you aren't paying for the service, you're not their client and they are not your provider. You're their product. It's not pretty, but sadly this is how life tends to work :-).

What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#107

Post by drostie »

StavrosK wrote: post #78
icebraining wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's in the "Promotions" tab, not the primary inbox. Personally, I think there are better reasons to leave Gmail (which is why I did so years ago).

What's a good email provider? I have tens of domains I want to consolidate into a single inbox (and maybe send valid mail from), and Google Apps hasn't been doing a great job with that until now.

ZoHo might be able to do that for you, but I'm not sure -- they might separate it at the domain level. But I'd think mail forwarding for 10 inboxes shouldn't be a stretch for them.

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#108

Post by josteink »

rfnslyr wrote: post #106
weland wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now email providers are sending us spam Mine isn't. Get used to it: if you aren't paying for the service, you're not their client and they are not your provider. You're their product. It's not pretty, but sadly this is how life tends to work :-).

What do you use? Better yet, what's an alternative to Google Apps I can use for my domain?

Fastmail[1] is looking very nice, very fast and makes Google look like a bloated pig.

The prices too are similar to Google apps, but I'm not sure I'm going to move all my stuff there (Google Docs at least needs a competitor).

I've yet to decide if I'm going full scale when I'm through my free trial.

[1] http://fastmail.fm/

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#109

Post by AndrewDucker »

random42 wrote: post #99
AndrewDucker wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$50 per year per person. As I run a Google Apps domain for my family, that would be several hundred dollars per year.

Well, that is the rate.

But sadly, not a rate that individuals can opt in to, when on Apps for Domains. Shame really!

Re: Ads in Gmail displayed as normal emails?

#110

Post by nly »

random42 wrote: post #99
AndrewDucker wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$50 per year per person. As I run a Google Apps domain for my family, that would be several hundred dollars per year.

Well, that is the rate.

Because it's aimed at business, not families. Fastmail have a family service that is much more flexible imho. The problem is trying to get family to actually pay for email.
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