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Re: Prism Break

#101

Post by sondr3 »

comex wrote: post #8

Several of these suggestions seem somewhat disingenuous - e.g. many of them to be about free software more than actual concerns about tracking, as reflected in the labels "Proprietary" and "Free alternatives". In particular: - None of the proprietary browsers will track you - well, beyond what's specified in the privacy policy. Two of the alternatives are Tor applications, but the other two are Firefox (which provide…

I'm at a bit of a crossroad, and I'm not entirely sure whether it's worth it; I've converted to Firefox from Chrome, moved to Piwik from Google Analytics, moved from Google Reader to Fever and so on. But it's just that it doesn't feel like it'll make a difference in the long run because nothing I'm doing will stop them if they actually do go after me.

It might help against tracking and such, but I feel like it's just an illusion that I'm making for myself. No matter what I do to try to prevent it they it won't matter in the long run, it just makes it that much more inconvenient for me.

Ugh, not sure what to do/think.

Re: Prism Break

#102

Post by ohwp »

Aren't these all false suggestions? (Except for Tor like software maybe)

For example: DuckDuckGo might hide your search but when you click on a link in the result list the request to that link is still monitored by your Internet provider.

Re: Prism Break

#103

Post by dfc »

aray wrote: post #51
tptacek wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google does that for a number of other non-Google sites, too.

Pretty sure its just google sites, because otherwise you might get false positives as other sites change servers/ips/certificates/etc

https://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/net/http/tr...

Re: Prism Break

#104

Post by uxwtf »

lifeguard wrote: post #73
tptacek wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think you can do as robust a job at securing your mail as Google does with Gmail, by all means. But I'd feel awfully dumb if I migrated from Gmail to some other web mail provider only to lose my mail to a 17 year old with a Perl script.

I know I can select a webmail provider that is not beholden to the United States of America's government. If you think Google is the only company that can secure webmail, I bet you are an employee.

Has anybody considered compiling and using Zimbra for himself ;) ?

Re: Prism Break

#105

Post by justincormack »

comex wrote: post #30
azakai wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to be assuming that tracking only happens either through incompetence or government mandate? Companies also track users to make money . Just today there was the news that twitter is starting to track its users, for example (at least it is opt-out).

Tracking in client-side software that occurs to make money is typically described in privacy policies, and a browser adding additional tracking would likely cause an uproar. While Firefox may provide a better default regarding sync, there is a difference between saying "stop using Chrome" and "enable client-side encryption".

The privacy policies do not tend to point out that this information may then be made available to governments.

Re: Prism Break

#106

Post by sudo_robin »

bdcravens wrote: post #86
h2s wrote: post #76

While I understand and sympathise with the compulsion to resist surveillance in this practical, technological way, I think it might be the wrong reaction to the information. It's typical of techie people to seek technical solutions to social problems, and this is one such case. It may well be possible to mitigate their ability to watch you by wearing enough tin-foil hats. Even if you succeed, all you've achieved is t…

People still puts locks and alarms in their house, even though they could avoid being burglarized through community watches and educating the public about the morals, ethics, and long term costs of stealing people's stuff.

No doubt. The element in question is the state authorization for burglary. Letting "authorized burglars" walk into your house and take a look around when you are having dinner with your family.

Re: Prism Break

#107

Post by sdfjkl »

antocv wrote: post #87

There is no easy secure way of having audio and/or video chats? Like we had with skype before microsoft stepped in. XMPP is here, and we have no real good clients either for desktop and for Android we got basically none that supports Jingle.

Jitsi supports ZRTP and Jingle (experimental).

Re: Prism Break

#108

Post by Rustan »

h2s wrote: post #76

While I understand and sympathise with the compulsion to resist surveillance in this practical, technological way, I think it might be the wrong reaction to the information. It's typical of techie people to seek technical solutions to social problems, and this is one such case. It may well be possible to mitigate their ability to watch you by wearing enough tin-foil hats. Even if you succeed, all you've achieved is t…

This is a very strange way to think. In an ideal world it could be enough to just continue to use insecure services. But we are clearly not living in an ideal world, and even if all governments could be stopped from doing this type of thing there would for sure be others that would take advantage of the information. Just acting politically is not enough.

I strongly disagree with your statement that using encryption will make you passive. Instead it is the other way around: if you continue to use compromised services despite knowing the dangers you will become passive and lose your ability to think clearly about the issues at stake.

Re: Prism Break

#109

Post by lovskogen »

comex wrote: post #8

Several of these suggestions seem somewhat disingenuous - e.g. many of them to be about free software more than actual concerns about tracking, as reflected in the labels "Proprietary" and "Free alternatives". In particular: - None of the proprietary browsers will track you - well, beyond what's specified in the privacy policy. Two of the alternatives are Tor applications, but the other two are Firefox (which provide…

If you don't mind disclosing, what do you work with?

Re: Prism Break

#110

Post by bigiain »

ohwp wrote: post #102

Aren't these all false suggestions? (Except for Tor like software maybe) For example: DuckDuckGo might hide your search but when you click on a link in the result list the request to that link is still monitored by your Internet provider.

For the sufficiently paranoid, DuckDuckGo is available as a Tor hidden service: 3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion

They also run a Tor exit enclave for DDG searches, so using https over tor for DuckDuckGo searches should provide about as much anonymity as you can get doing search engine queries.

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