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Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by croisillon »

rb12345 wrote: post #98
croisillon wrote: post #84

I love the NYUD trick, but trying to look up nyud.net brings me to some parked website, I don't know more about it. A sensible worldwide url proxy-like would be great in order to bypass such country-based accesses. Oh, and letme.in is for sale! Wanna see the BBC? paste letme.in in the url ; wanna see french public TV from abroad? do the same ; belgian public TV? go ahead On a related note, lemonde.fr has similar weir…

I found that http://www.bbc.com.sixxs.org was far faster than using Coral cache, but that assumes that you have access to IPv6. You can't chain the IPv4 proxy to it by the look of things ( http://www.bbc.com.sixxs.org.ipv4.sixxs.org/ ).

OK, so NYUD and SIXXS are "tunnels" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_protocol which seems to work similarly as a proxy...

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by orsenfelt »

Fuxy wrote: post #57
ig1 wrote: post #4

The BBC are prohibited from running certain commercial services (of which BBC.com is one) in the UK due to regulatory requirements. It's not their decision. You could of-course lobby your MP to get it changed, but I imagine there would be substantial opposition from both supporters and opponents of public media services to allowing BBC to run commercial services in the UK.

So showing ads is the problem right? Then don't show adds to UK citizens and let them read the damn thing instead of blocking the article? Then BBC International can charge BBC for showing "add free content" to UK citizens and that would take care of the formalities.

No the problem is that the content was created with the intention of making profit and the BBC aren't allowed to do that in the UK.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by orsenfelt »

Nursie wrote: post #15
andrewcooke wrote: post #5

A BBC Worldwide spokesman said: [...] 'Under the BBC’s Fair Trading rules commercial websites are not allowed to receive unfair promotion from the BBC’s public services. 'This prevents us from being able to provide Future content on BBC.co.uk. genres. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208251/Global-BBC-w... (daily mail, so you have to scroll way down past the righteous indignation to get the facts)

>> 'Under the BBC’s Fair Trading rules commercial websites are not allowed to receive unfair promotion from the BBC’s public services. So don't promote it on the publicly funded sites. Done. >> 'This prevents us from being able to provide Future content on BBC.co.uk. genres. All that's saying is "we can't put this stuff on our UK sites". I'm not criticising the parent post by the way, but this just sounds like more n…

>> So don't promote it on the publicly funded sites. Done.

That's exactly what they are doing. The only sites the BBC are legally allowed to operate within the UK have to be publicly funded.

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by rb12345 »

croisillon wrote: post #101
rb12345 wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found that http://www.bbc.com.sixxs.org was far faster than using Coral cache, but that assumes that you have access to IPv6. You can't chain the IPv4 proxy to it by the look of things ( http://www.bbc.com.sixxs.org.ipv4.sixxs.org/ ).

OK, so NYUD and SIXXS are "tunnels" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_protocol which seems to work similarly as a proxy...

Both are proxies of a sort. They're effectively websites with a wildcard DNS entry and the subdomain is then used to determine the remote site. In nyud.net's case, this is located in their CDN before the real site is contacted. In the case of sixxs.org, the site is contacted directly. The difference is in the DNS entries. .ipv4.sixxs.org returns an IPv4 address and .sixxs.org returns an IPv6 address. Once connected, if the Host: header ends in ipv4.sixxs.org, the proxy connects to the remote site over IPv6; if not, the proxy connects over IPv4. The end result is that you get a proxy that lets you access the IPv6 web without IPv6 (and the IPv4 web without IPv4).

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by croisillon »

rb12345 wrote: post #104
croisillon wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, so NYUD and SIXXS are "tunnels" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunneling_protocol which seems to work similarly as a proxy...

Both are proxies of a sort. They're effectively websites with a wildcard DNS entry and the subdomain is then used to determine the remote site. In nyud.net's case, this is located in their CDN before the real site is contacted. In the case of sixxs.org, the site is contacted directly. The difference is in the DNS entries. .ipv4.sixxs.org returns an IPv4 address and .sixxs.org returns an IPv6 address. Once connected,…

Cool, thanks for the explanations!

Re: BBC blocking articles from UK residents

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Post by edward »

I wrote to my MP. This is his reply:

10 July 2013

Dear Edward,

Thank you for writing to me with your concerns about why a particular BBC article (http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20130701-why-you-feel-phanto...) cannot be viewed in the UK.

It is the case that some international BBC content cannot be viewed in the UK because it is not funded by the licence fee, but instead by BBC Worldwide which is a commercial enterprise.

I appreciate that this is frustrating but because BBC Worldwide is run commercially there is no obligation for the BBC to make international service content available in the UK.

Thanks again for bringing your concerns to my attention.

Yours sincerely,

Julian Huppert Member of Parliament for Cambridge

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