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Re: iOS 7

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Post by blocking_io »

paganel wrote: post #78
toyg wrote: post #61

I don't care about flatness or skeutransmogrification or whatnot, but the damn thing must WORK. Look at his iMessage screen comparison [1]: yes, the old screen looks a bit geocities, but you can actually read text very well; the new screen is almost unreadable. The prime aim of iMessage is to make people read text, not to look cool. It doesn't matter if there are options to thicken the font -- the whole point of OSX/…

From a fellow know-nothing when it comes to "flatness" and skeu-something I was a little bit surprised when the author complained that the old "receive a call" interface was full with alert-like buttons. They are supposed to be "Alert" buttons, for crying out loud, as in you're asleep in your bed, the phone starts ringing which means you have been "alerted", you're now woken up and ready to answer the call or deny it…

You have always been able to deny calls using the power button on top. Presumably that method is now compulsory.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by k-mcgrady »

dylangs1030 wrote: post #60
jmduke wrote: post #34

Man, iOS 7 feedback is incredibly frustrating for no reason that actually matters. I feel like I spent the past few years falling in love with flat design, on mobile and on the web -- and I read article after article from historically pro-Apple bloggers/authors explaining that no, flat design was fundamentally a bad move: the strongest metaphor is that of the phone as a tool -- that we needed skeumorphism, we need hi…

This is not a fair response to the industry in my opinion. iOS 7 is not just "flat" - at the risk of sounding like a fanboy, it's so much more than that. You're judging it based on the most obvious first impression - the icons and such. Those can be improved, yes (especially Safari's...) but you're not reviewing the actual interface. I'm typing this comment on iOS 7 and I assure you it feels smoother. There are kinks…

>> "I encourage you to download iOS 7's beta and try it out if you can"

I wouldn't be encouraging anyone to do that unless they are a developer, need to do it, and have a spare, non production device to do it on.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by sp332 »

I think the point about color is wrong. I like this article in general, but that section misses the point. Color is used to highlight important information, but it doesn't act as a divider between items in a list. The list is divided according to a perfectly-executed typographic hierarchy that lets the eye group lines together in space. https://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/12... No color needed.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Flying_Dwarf »

czhiddy wrote: post #21

When did HN become such a cesspool of snarky low-quality comments? Every time I see a Glass/iPhone/WindowsPhone/etc article nowadays, I prepare myself for a deluge of shitty YouTube-caliber posts. Embarrassing.

Like you.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by bane »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #7

So now that Apple has moved on it's acceptable to call the old UI dated and ugly. Cool, glad we can be honest about it now.

and it seems like just a few months ago people were quickly rebutting this simple fact.

Of course we went from old and tired, to ugly and nearly unusable so...

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Pxtl »

Yhippa wrote: post #95
Pxtl wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As somebody who's been using Windows Phone for the past year or two, I like it. I think it works as a best-of-both-worlds between iOS and WP7. Android is going to look incredibly antiquated in a year or two (especially since tilting homescreen and lockscreen widgets, while useful, made it ugly), and I'm a complete Android fanboy.

When I look compare WP8 and iOS 7 the thing that's the biggest difference is that iOS 7 seems to be much busier. WP8 apps definitely take a "Metro" approach and keep it simple: squares on simple backgrounds, rectangles around buttons that do things, and the buttons that are icons enclosed in circles. I was on the Montréal metro this weekend and really like the flat design they use which WP8 really took to heart. It w…

I think it's the backgrounds everywhere that make iOS 7 look so busy, especially the home screen. The screens that are simple text-on-background or boxes-on-background look fine, and the chatbox retains a pure simple white background.

In cases where the white background exists, the stylistic similarities to WP7/8 look more obvious. WP7/8 make very limited use of elaborate backgrounds, preferring to go with jet-black. There's an option to invert the WP7 colors and go with black text on white background... it makes iOS7 look like a complete clone there.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by blocking_io »

kraemate wrote: post #24

I cant believe how quickly UI and design have fallen now that Jobs is gone. Things like childish gradients and terrible icons. Don't even get me started on the contrast -- light text on fluorescent green background and the really thin font. I could only draw one conclusion from the comparison of iOS 6 vs 7 --- it's as if Apple has done everything possible to make it unusable. Steve would probably have fired the taste…

Do you really think that removing the 'rich Corinthian leather' (which Steve Jobs loved) from iCal is a bad thing? If anything, I think the real world textures are more childish.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by jlmendezbonini »

mintplant wrote: post #11
ryanstout wrote: post #5

Hopefully I'm not the only one that thinks this is going to kill usability. The reason old people can figure their way around This article seems to sum up some of my other complaints fairly well: http://wolfslittlestore.be/tasteless/

I'm volunteering at a center that teaches senior citizens various computer skills. One of the courses we teach is on how to use their iPhones. I'm dreading the moment that iOS7 is released: all of these people are going to have to start right back at the beginning in their understanding.

Would you mind sharing more details about why you think it's going to be painful for seniors to adjust? The answer might be obvious, but I'd love to hear more about the difficulties that you've faced teaching seniors.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Flying_Dwarf »

grandalf wrote: post #10

I can't believe anyone likes the old one. I think the IOS audience just might be getting a bit old and stodgy.

Ha! Those exact words are going to bite Apple so hard when iOS 7 is released.

Old people love ornamentation. My 91 year old grandmother can barely distinguish buttons on her iPhone 4, I pity how she'll use iOS 7.

Re: iOS 7

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Post by Pxtl »

nish1500 wrote: post #71
jmduke wrote: post #34

Man, iOS 7 feedback is incredibly frustrating for no reason that actually matters. I feel like I spent the past few years falling in love with flat design, on mobile and on the web -- and I read article after article from historically pro-Apple bloggers/authors explaining that no, flat design was fundamentally a bad move: the strongest metaphor is that of the phone as a tool -- that we needed skeumorphism, we need hi…

The liberal use of fluorescent colours makes it an eyesore. Apply (or Ive) simply does not understand graphic design anymore. It's a disaster of epic proportions.

I don't think it's the color, I think it's the backgrounds. With less spacing between elements on the home-screen, putting a background - even a simple gradient - makes it insanely busy. Spots where they show a more elaborate background are cringeworthy. There's a reason WP switched to solid colors.

I think the bright elaborate icons would look fine on a jet-black or solid white background.

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