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Post by cadalac »

ivan_gammel wrote: post #87
cadalac wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the low taxes you would have had there?

For that low taxes you get: 1. Awful state clinics 2. Corrupt police 3. Poor public infrastructure 4. Irresponsible government So, you have to pay separately for security, for medicine etc.

1. Many countries with good care are on the verge of bankruptcy.

2. Sad to hear.

3. From what I gather, the corruption in the construction industry extremely bad there.

4. Are they really worse than any other country? Starting off of the base of the previous regime, there's obviously going to be a lot of work to do.

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Post by ahh »

mtgx wrote: post #66
tptacek wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically, the FISA law being used by the NSA to capture phone records doesn't generate evidence that is easily used in court. If you're not a legitimate foreign target, you can suppress evidence that originates from FISA, and the NSA is obligated to destroy evidence it inadvertently collects on citizens.

In theory. In practice, they spy on you for a week, and then obtain a warrant because they have "probable cause", taken from all the spying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

cema wrote: post #100
Samuel_Michon wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, the original was: “In America, you can always find a party. In Soviet Russia, Party always finds you!” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff#Russian_reversa...

I have always thought it was all his pun on: "Under capitalism, a man exploits a man. Under socialism, it's the other way around!" But I may have been mistaken.

That’s a real possibility, as that Russian (or Polish, depending on who you ask) joke had been making the rounds for almost 30 years when Smirnoff moved to the US in 1977.

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/unde...

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Post by Ellahn »

akiselev wrote: post #93
anonymous wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be much more comfortable having the Russian mafia targeting me than I'd be with the NSA spying on me. You can pay the mafia.

I think you're conflating television with reality. You don't give or pay the Russian mafia, they take what they want. The Russian government (Russia is a "virtual mafia state" [1] so gov't == mafia) is responsible for some of the most visible politically motivated assassinations and scams in the world. I.e., look at the use of polonium to assassinate Litvinenko in London (the assassin suspected by the British gov't i…

Of course the NSA would do nothing against anyone, and it only gives access to this data to the people that need and deserve it, and it would never fall in the hands of someone who would betray our trust, or their trust, like this Snowden guy, and...

Oh, wait-.

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#105

Post by memracom »

xentronium wrote: post #16
Doublon wrote: post #4

"Trust KGB to read your mail ( http://www.russianpost.ru/ ) "

Nah, you're more likely to never receive your snail mail due to incompetence of the goddamn service. These are not photoshopped: http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_01.jpg http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_02.jpg http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_03.jpg

What's the problem? This is in Russia where it gets REALLY cold in winter and never thaws for several months. Or did you think that they would haul the parcels into a heated building for sorting? Nope. As any Canadian knows, that kind of snow falls off as soon as you shake the parcel and the paper (at freezing temperatures) is so slick that it is as if it was lubricated. Most of that snow will fall off from the vibration of the ride inside the sorting building. And the recipients will never know that it happened.

Plus, it is a Russian tradition to wrap things in plastic before putting them in the parcel postal boxes.

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Post by akiselev »

Ellahn wrote: post #104
akiselev wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're conflating television with reality. You don't give or pay the Russian mafia, they take what they want. The Russian government (Russia is a "virtual mafia state" [1] so gov't == mafia) is responsible for some of the most visible politically motivated assassinations and scams in the world. I.e., look at the use of polonium to assassinate Litvinenko in London (the assassin suspected by the British gov't i…

Of course the NSA would do nothing against anyone, and it only gives access to this data to the people that need and deserve it, and it would never fall in the hands of someone who would betray our trust, or their trust, like this Snowden guy, and... Oh, wait-.

Of course the Russian mafia state would do nothing against anyone, and it only gives access to this data to the people that need and deserve it, and it would never fall in the hands of someone who would betray our trust, or their trust, like, for example, any bum from the military, intelligence, or business community that offers enough of a bribe for it.

Oh, wait-.

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Post by djim »

tptacek wrote: post #89
djim wrote: post #82

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I don't jive with your analogy on TSA screening/NSA blanket spying on all citizens. Flying is a choice, in one form or another. We volunteer to be subjected to TSA when we buy a plane ticket. We don't agree to give up our rights as a citizen when we vote people into office, even if we support that candidate's views on fighting terror. Let's vote this gal/guy into office so we can have our rights suppressed in the nam…

I disagree with you that flying is a "choice" that turns airport security into an opt-in procedure.

you can live your entire life and never fly. if you are a citizen of the world communicating inside the US (or internet traffic passing through the US), evidence seems to indicate that some portion of your communications are being recorded and stored under the pretense of fighting terrorism. everyone communicates. these are worlds apart as from each other.

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Post by buster »

ck2 wrote: post #45
buster wrote: post #38

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Aye, and we're still at it deciphering shreddered papers :) http://www.goethe.de/ges/pok/ddg/en2491168.htm

This quote from that article gives me chills because it's what they are saying now: Erich Mielke's mania for information: the long-time head of the Stasi, Mielke believed that "you have to know everything in order to be completely safe"

That's a really good quote in the light of the NSA drama.. i still don't understand how people can defend this..

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Post by eatitraw »

cadalac wrote: post #72
Nekorosu wrote: post #12

I'm russian. I've left Russia for good because of weather and politics. Now I'm laughing out loud. All jokes aside it's interesting to observe politics and technology interplay. But I'm not too excited I have to take part in some of the events.

What about the low taxes you would have had there?

Why do you refer to taxes in Russia as low? Could you please provide some comparison to other countries?

I live in Russia and I don't think taxes here are low.

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Post by xentronium »

memracom wrote: post #105
xentronium wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nah, you're more likely to never receive your snail mail due to incompetence of the goddamn service. These are not photoshopped: http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_01.jpg http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_02.jpg http://cdn.trinixy.ru/pics5/20121123/mail_03.jpg

What's the problem? This is in Russia where it gets REALLY cold in winter and never thaws for several months. Or did you think that they would haul the parcels into a heated building for sorting? Nope. As any Canadian knows, that kind of snow falls off as soon as you shake the parcel and the paper (at freezing temperatures) is so slick that it is as if it was lubricated. Most of that snow will fall off from the vibra…

> What's the problem?

The problem is that processing centers are overloaded. As a result, more and more boxes and parcels pile up. Sometimes it gets even more ridiculous, like recently in Moscow, when some boxes caught fire.

Besides, the whole processing system is so ineffective, that you could send a box from China to Far Eastern Russia (relatively small distance), which would first land to be processed in Moscow (great distance) and then be sent back to Far East.

Also, there is a queueing problem in the goddamn post offices, I won't even get started on that, it is so infuriating.

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