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I worked for a client once (a very large logistics firm) where everyone who isn't union had to wear suit and tie, this included all vendors. We were testing some new equipment we built in a sorting facility without any climate control. In July. In Orlando.
UPS?
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They may have used to be true, but nowadays with fine wool, it really isn't any more. And let's face it, the level of improvement many of us engineers need to take is not to suits, but even to wearing something nicer than a t-shirt and loose jeans.
It isn't appropriate as a software developer to wear a suit to work. It often isn't even appropriate in an interview as a software developer to wear a suit. It looks ridiculous to wear a suit jacket when the next few layers of your management chain are wearing board shorts and sandals. Instead, the ideal seems to be to tread a fine line between casual wear and formal wear. Properly fitted clothing is important here-…
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They may have used to be true, but nowadays with fine wool, it really isn't any more. And let's face it, the level of improvement many of us engineers need to take is not to suits, but even to wearing something nicer than a t-shirt and loose jeans.
It isn't appropriate as a software developer to wear a suit to work. It often isn't even appropriate in an interview as a software developer to wear a suit. It looks ridiculous to wear a suit jacket when the next few layers of your management chain are wearing board shorts and sandals. Instead, the ideal seems to be to tread a fine line between casual wear and formal wear. Properly fitted clothing is important here-…
Clothing is boring. It's something you have to do, as opposed to what you want to be doing. Unless it's a T-shirt with some image that relates to your personality. I'll pay for a service where I can dump my clothes and they'll produce identical new and fitted items.
Fair enough but would you feel comfortable in a suit? If not then maybe it's not boredom dictating your choice of clothes.
But yeah, I feel /weird/ dressed formally, and I see that as the primary problem I am doing this to overcome. I will probably keep my standard dress informal[1] after I get used to the suit, but being able to switch contexts is a good thing, and will likely be pretty interesting.
I mean, the point here is mostly to get over me feeling weird about formal dress, and I think for me, it's mostly the suit that feels weird. Also, I think leather soles are hazardous, and I have no actual respect for people who judge other people on shoe quality.
[1]current uniform is black cargo pants (moderate expense, "tactical 5.11" brand; reasonable expense and quality, lots of pockets. very convenient for datacenter work; one pocket is for garbage, the rest for tools. Kinda shapeless and baggy, though.) and a black 'prgmr.com' logo T shirt, with very old "Cove Matterhorn" brand boots that have seen years and years of abuse, and several motorcycle accidents. I also have a thin, unkempt 'homeless man' beard and generally only cut my hair when it starts presenting a hazard by blocking my vision.
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Cost of t-shirt: $15. Cost of perfectly-tailored suit: $x. Solve for `x < 20`.
If it is appropriate for you to wear a suit for an occasion (outside of church, weddings, and funerals), then you are likely making enough from the position to pay for the suit.
Also, you could just be averse to a perceived waste of money, even if you could afford it (my case).
I wish I can dress nicely in suits, but I don't do it for two reasons. No one dresses in suits in technology sector. Not even CEO. Only team that dress up in our company is legal, and even they are on the more informal side compared to what real formal is. Good suits that look good are expensive. I don't want to wear daddy tier suits, but good looking suits I've seen run well over $500.
I wear a suit (or sport coat) every Friday. Here's what I do: Buy vintage. You can get an $800 suit for $40 at Goodwill. Treasure hunting is fun. Seriously. Make light of it. I call it "Fancy Friday" and sometimes refer to it as a "ridiculous affectation" or "grown-up cosplay". People get used to it and now comment when I'm not dressed up on Fridays.
Clothing is boring. It's something you have to do, as opposed to what you want to be doing. Unless it's a T-shirt with some image that relates to your personality. I'll pay for a service where I can dump my clothes and they'll produce identical new and fitted items.
This could be a copyright nightmare though.
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I would never discourage you from such a pursuit. I would also love to see someone pull off a full cloak and mantle outside of Game of Thrones. I doubt I will live to see that day, but it would be incredible.
Wearing a black wool overcoat over a full suit isn't the same thing as a cloak and mantle, but it's close. Living in Seattle helps.
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UPS?
yup, I think they may have loosened their dress code for vendors by now
