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Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by garindra »

parm289 wrote: post #54

Most of the comments here focus on Microsoft, Sony, and gamers; I'd like to (indirectly) bring the traditional cable co into the discussion. Last semester several Comcast reps gave my class a presentation which included a summary of their media strategy, a demo of their new cable TV platform/cable box, and a Q&A section. Their new cable box (a small, black, ATV-like 'dumb' set-top box) is progressive: it has a modern…

Yeah. As soon as I saw CBS (which weirdly, was first presented in the context of the voice-activated command feature), I knew it had a pretty good chance of taking over the "input A".

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by sreyaNotfilc »

Irregardless wrote: post #62
simonsarris wrote: post #8

Most people I know who own a PS3 consider it essentially a blu-ray player. Most people I know who own an Xbox consider it essentially a Netflix player. These people bought games, but they don't really play them. I've got naught but my anecdata, but I think attempting to bill this new console as an entertainment system that happens to also play some great games is a very, very good idea.

Why? They just alienated gamers while showing non-gamers that they've been overpaying for a glorified Netflix machine. I've been a diehard Xbox fan since I first got my hands on the original, but this makes me want to switch back to Playstation.

The way I see it is that every new gaming console is going to do gaming better than the generation before it. Shouldn't that be a given?

Microsoft's job, as far as the Xbox, is the following... 1) Go lobby for components from various manufactures to meet the next-gen specs (whatever that may be) 2) Create tools and APIs for developers to understand the platform for which they are building 3) Improve existing services so that gamers have a consistent and enhanced experience

Its a lot of work, but its no rocket science either. Every console does this. Which goes to my point... When it comes to the games, these consoles are basically the same thing (especially the ps4 and xboxOne). Sure, some platforms may have an exclusive here and a different game there. Overall, the ps4 and the xboxOne will be matching one-for-one the basic gameplay mechanics.

What Microsoft did was say "alright, lets not focus on the redundant, but lets take a look at what separates this console from the other one (ps4)".

This is just an unveiling of what the console is. Don't worry, the games are still here. They will always be here. They could've made a presentation with nothing but demos. Sure, gamers would be delighted. But, if you think of it, it doesn't make sense to do so. Especially that E3 will be coming in only a couple of weeks. There will be plenty of games there.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by yoster »

The thing about Xbox 360 not having Blu-ray just made streaming/renting/buying a lot better. Why go to a store when you can just turn the Xbox on and do the same thing. I do want to say that it is a great option for the people who buy Blu-ray discs, but I like the convenience of not being attached to huge, physical disc libraries.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by sreyaNotfilc »

path411 wrote: post #73
Irregardless wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? They just alienated gamers while showing non-gamers that they've been overpaying for a glorified Netflix machine. I've been a diehard Xbox fan since I first got my hands on the original, but this makes me want to switch back to Playstation.

What more do you want them to tell you as a gamer about the new system? They released specs and talked about the cloud gaming capabilities. Having more 3rd party game makers demo games for the system doesn't really improve my appeal to the console. I already knew the new xbox would be the next gaming console. It seems like they went for the non-obvious, and wanted to talk about the other features. The games are going…

Should've read your post before I wrote mine. You wrote it better.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by estel »

ebbv wrote: post #78
jlgreco wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be stunned if it was. It seems entirely unjustifiable unless it is just an artifact of the 360 software being designed with only with online services that use Microsoft servers in mind. They clearly know that isn't the case anymore though, it would be pretty damn shitty of them to keep ripping people off like that.

Netflix on the 360 requiring Xbox Live is not an artifact. It's just a cash grab. The 360 was the first console to offer Netflix and they had exclusivity for a while so they could do it. Once the exclusivity ended they didn't make it free because they felt no need to because lots of people continued to pay up.

Allegedly this was a reason that BBC's iPlayer took so long to arrive on the 360. The BBC's charter was somehow contrary to MSFT's insistence that iPlayer was available only to XBL Gold members, so the release of iPlayer on 360 was delayed by years.

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/bbc-we-d-still...

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by ehmuidifici »

Xbox one is more a media center than a vg console itself.

Sadly we're witnessing the second vg crash. No more hardcore gamers, no more preowned games...

It seems that if we want to have a REAL GAMING EXPERIENCE, (this includes fun, creativity, good stories, simple controls) we will need to go back to the past.

Fortunately, 'retrogaming scene' will gather more adepts. =)

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by macoughl »

benbeltran wrote: post #100
Caskman wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they alienate gamers? Gamers know first and foremost that XBox is a gaming console. They should especially know that after being shown the demo of CoD Ghost. This really is a great move for them, as gamers see the benefit of additional functionality and non-gamers see an intriguing entertainment platform. I'm a diehard PC fan though so I probably won't get a console anyways

The event's games presentations were oriented to what is usually called the "Bro gamer" demographic (e.g. Madden/FIFA/CoD) ... It focused on TV, for which many of the core gamers don't care. Contrast this to the PS4 announcement, which had many developers and a lot of talk about how the platform is going to be more "open" for the small guys, and it felt really passionate about the "for-gamers" features. As a gamer, I…

That announcement trailer felt like a car commercial
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