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At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by king_jester »

DanBC wrote: post #42

Creepers have been creeping for years and years and years. They peer through curtains; they make spyholes in cubicle walls, and with digital cameras they hide cameras in ceilings and books and showers and shoes. Voyeuristic porn is a category. Upskirt is word popular enough to have an understood meaning. I'm a bloke. I'm not worried by those creepers. But I am uneasy about some users of Google Glass. I'd be really un…

> I'm a bloke. I'm not worried by those creepers.

> But I am uneasy about some users of Google Glass. I'd be really uncomfortable if I was standing at a urinal and someone was next to me still wearing Google Glass.

Now you know exactly how people who aren't blokes feel about creepers.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by artificialidiot »

dghughes wrote: post #91

My concern is people like myself who wear prescription eye glasses who may want to try Google Glass so end up putting the device on prescription glasses. It's one thing to remove your Google Glass glasses to be polite or legal i.e. washroom, locker room, driving a vehicle but for me that wouldn't be an option. Also, I wonder if I could make a pair of infrared LEDs put them on my person somewhere to emit an interferen…

Unfortunately, that is not practical. Cameras need to filter out IR from sun to get a decent picture. Unlikely your measly head mounted LEDs would amount to an interference.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by freehunter »

Cushman wrote: post #94
freehunter wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone is standing 20 feet from me recording, that's a different story. If someone is standing less than a foot from me and I discover him violating me, he's close enough to do physical harm. Perfectly justified in doing everything in my power to put some range between him and I. It's called self defense. The mere threat of physical violence coupled with the ongoing act of sexual harassment is enough justificatio…

Without judgment or implication-- I'm curious if you feel the same standard applies to a woman who notices a man is staring at her chest.

Naked? In the bathroom? With an expectation of privacy? Yes. Yes I do.

Crimes don't exist in a vacuum, there are factors that make the actions cross lines. A man glancing at a women's chest or a woman glancing at a man's rear end is not becoming of a professional, but it's not a crime. Repeated offense and an escalating situation? Then it becomes a crime. Likewise, nudity and expectation of privacy are factors that go into determining the appropriate response.

If I walked up behind a woman and started breathing heavily on her neck while she was cornered in a room with only one exit, she would be completely within her rights to use violence as a means to get away from me even though I never touched her.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by pseut »

Blara wrote: post #96
pseut wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or just take it off. Remember when people kept their bluetooth earpiece in their ear all the time ?

except for those people who need glasses to see

Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe Glass will be like prescription sunglasses, and people will have a separate pair? Maybe there will be a way to overtly disable the computer part or remove it entirely?

I think it's really unlikely that, aside from early adopters, people will have Glass "in place" when they're not using it, though.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by freehunter »

potatolicious wrote: post #25
freehunter wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? If someone was indiscreetly peering over your shoulder to check out your package, you would let them know that it made you upset? Excuse me good sir, I do believe you are offending me? Where I come from, that's more than an indiscretion. We're not talking about a locker room.

So... "where you come from" what is the bar at which felony assault is justified?

Well felony assault consists of intentionally causing severe bodily harm to someone or attacking an elderly person or child. A single blow to the face would generally not be felony assault.

However, I would consider cornering me in a bathroom and sexually harassing me to be just cause for self defense.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by awj »

mtgx wrote: post #3

I assume people think this is a problem because they are afraid someone will film them "down there". But you have to actually look down there to do that with Glass, and last I checked that was already frowned upon, and it's something people know they shouldn't do. So why would Glass make this situation much worse?

You really have to ask how recording something that you could play back for everyone is worse than only viewing it in that one moment?

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by Jun8 »

DanBC wrote: post #42

Creepers have been creeping for years and years and years. They peer through curtains; they make spyholes in cubicle walls, and with digital cameras they hide cameras in ceilings and books and showers and shoes. Voyeuristic porn is a category. Upskirt is word popular enough to have an understood meaning. I'm a bloke. I'm not worried by those creepers. But I am uneasy about some users of Google Glass. I'd be really un…

Note that the term "upskirt" came to prominence after cellphones became widely available. Who knows what the new violation term would be.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by artificialidiot »

potatolicious wrote: post #32
ignostic wrote: post #2

We should never have had any expectation of privacy in public places. I think what scares most people is that they're going to end up on the internet for some reason. Perhaps this shows how self-obsessed we are: to think that anyone is going to care about us walking down the street minding our own business. Maybe it's the uncertainty that makes people uneasy. I can walk down the street recording everyone with my smar…

It's not as irrational a fear as you're making it out to be. Check out any number of tumblr blogs. People of Wal-Mart. Look at That Fucking Hipster, etc. Or a very, very large section of /r/pics or /r/funny on Reddit. Even ignoring the extreme cases like /r/creepshots, the Internet has already proven that it greatly enjoys taking pictures of strangers in everyday life and mocking them mercilessly. People would like t…

If only there would be something that detects the moment of snark forming in their head and snaps a picture of the commentator at that instant. Surely, there will be enough comedy material right there for everyone involved.

Re: At Google Conference, Cameras Even in the Bathroom

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Post by [deleted] »

DanBC wrote: post #42

Creepers have been creeping for years and years and years. They peer through curtains; they make spyholes in cubicle walls, and with digital cameras they hide cameras in ceilings and books and showers and shoes. Voyeuristic porn is a category. Upskirt is word popular enough to have an understood meaning. I'm a bloke. I'm not worried by those creepers. But I am uneasy about some users of Google Glass. I'd be really un…

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