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New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

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Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#101

The concept of putting on my login page skeevs me out more than a little bit. This is a major security hole that won't be patched until there is native support in the browser.

or until we give you a library you can audit and host yourself, which we're working on.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm personally not a big fan of social sign in, and i doubt i'm going to use persona (at this time). Persona seems like to me kinda like what the chinese are doing with requiring people to use .gov ids on the web. Sure in china it will be by force and here it will be opt in, but in my eyes the result will be the same: making it easier to track people across the web. I don't feel like persona solves the ability for a…

As I understand it, there's nothing to stop you using a separate Persona ID for each site you visit, and none of your IDs has to be tied to your real life identity. But most people already give the same username and same e-mail on loads of different websites, so we're happy to carry on doing that. For now, most Persona users are stored in a central location by Mozilla. The idea is that e-mail providers take over auth…

Great point. You can log into each website with a different email address.

Someone can build a Persona identity provider to automate Pseudo Anonymity.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#105
This is fantastic! I'm really excited to see Mozilla improving the login experience for users across the web. It is a problem that is sorely in need of better solutions.

For the Node.js developers in the crowd, I'm happy to see Mozilla is using Passport.js (http://passportjs.org/) (which I'm the developer of) to power the OpenID/OAuth dances when doing identity bridging. You can see it in action at the BigTent repo: https://github.com/mozilla/browserid-bigtent

Passport.js can be used in your own applications to easily perform the server-side part of Persona/BrowserID as well as integrate with or transition from an existing login system.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#106

>> type in email, login to yahoo... Wait. So, my email provider (Yahoo) can now keep track of every website I login to, if he wants? How can I stop Yahoo being the middleman? Second question, if an attacker knows my Yahoo password, can he potentially login to _all_ Persona-powered websites with my email then?

Email accounts are almost everyone's achilles. Even without Persona, the attacker could still go around to websites and request password resets if they have access to your email.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#107

When it works with Gmail, then the world gets better.

It already works with any email address, including Gmail. But the Persona team works on a dedicated support for Gmail, that will allow Gmail users to use Persona without a need of an additional password.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#108

This is fantastic! I'm really excited to see Mozilla improving the login experience for users across the web. It is a problem that is sorely in need of better solutions. For the Node.js developers in the crowd, I'm happy to see Mozilla is using Passport.js ( http://passportjs.org/ ) (which I'm the developer of) to power the OpenID/OAuth dances when doing identity bridging. You can see it in action at the BigTent repo…

Jared is also a great project maintainer. He has been very responsive to questions and stays on top of github issues. Go Passport!

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#109

Here is my feedback. Perhaps the marketing of "persona" to consumers should take a backseat. When I signed in to http://123done.org/ the pop up* showing "sign in with persona" confused me for a moment. For a moment, I thought.. "but I do not have a persona account" If there is a way for users to just sign in with their email without telling them how it is done, I am sure there will be even less friction. Of course, t…

Regarding Firebase, they said that they "added support for Persona as one of the authentication mechanisms for their Simple Login service". Their main website must not be using this service or not enabled the particular authentication component?

That's correct, the Simple Login service allows apps that use Firebase to integrate Persona authentication: https://www.firebase.com/docs/security/simple-login-persona....

This means the data you store in Firebase can be associated with a Persona user, and you can structure your security rules to enforce whatever read/write behavior makes sense for your app.

Re: New Persona Beta: Millions of Users Ready to Log In using Any Browser

#110
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"sign in with persona" may be confusing now but "sign in with your e-mail" it's pretty clear https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/persona/branding

The popup has to explain WHY it is asking for an email address. Else, Average Joe is just going to assume you are a spam site asking for his email.

After you click a button labeled sign in, the popup reads "[Your site] uses Persona instead of usernames to sign you in. To sign in with Persona, please enter your email address."

I'm not sure I can do better than that text -- do you have any suggestions?

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