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Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by cygwin98 »

michaelochurch wrote: post #98

You know what? Fuck that. Nothing against this guy. If it were $1 million, or $3 million, I probably wouldn't bat an eye. A hundred million for a non-technical executive would be OK, if engineers had basic autonomy and open allocation. Then (and only then) they'd actually be able to afford (morally speaking) a $100M payout to a non-technical executive. Don't call yourself a technical company if engineers in the $100k…

What kind of trade secrets this guy could possess that made GOOG feel so threatened to make this offer, since nobody is indispensable, right? Care to shed some lights on this?

I know GOOG has been dominating the search market for more than a decade, does it also have the same position in the ad market?

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by _k »

michaelochurch wrote: post #98

You know what? Fuck that. Nothing against this guy. If it were $1 million, or $3 million, I probably wouldn't bat an eye. A hundred million for a non-technical executive would be OK, if engineers had basic autonomy and open allocation. Then (and only then) they'd actually be able to afford (morally speaking) a $100M payout to a non-technical executive. Don't call yourself a technical company if engineers in the $100k…

Regarding epen allocation. What if only 2 engineers are needed and 100 are interested ?

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by yuhong »

michaelochurch wrote: post #98

You know what? Fuck that. Nothing against this guy. If it were $1 million, or $3 million, I probably wouldn't bat an eye. A hundred million for a non-technical executive would be OK, if engineers had basic autonomy and open allocation. Then (and only then) they'd actually be able to afford (morally speaking) a $100M payout to a non-technical executive. Don't call yourself a technical company if engineers in the $100k…

BTW, on Google, what do you think of Eric Schmidt? Someone suggested after the anti-poaching fiasco that he should be fired: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3523513

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by rhizome »

dopamean wrote: post #39
Evbn wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kind of a long way of describing that big company big wigs get paid a lot of money, and it isn't really a big issue because no worker bee is as irreplaceable. He knows a lot of similarly well placed people and knows a lot of Google's business which competitors would be interested to learn about (nothing informal on paper of course), and like a tin pot dictatorship, stability is better than churn, regardless of whethe…

> big company big wigs I think Mohan is a little more than just another "big wig." Google probably should have given him an incentives package similar to $100 million a long time ago.

Said another way, they waited until the last minute.

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by rhizome »

_k wrote: post #102
michaelochurch wrote: post #98

You know what? Fuck that. Nothing against this guy. If it were $1 million, or $3 million, I probably wouldn't bat an eye. A hundred million for a non-technical executive would be OK, if engineers had basic autonomy and open allocation. Then (and only then) they'd actually be able to afford (morally speaking) a $100M payout to a non-technical executive. Don't call yourself a technical company if engineers in the $100k…

Regarding epen allocation. What if only 2 engineers are needed and 100 are interested ?

To use an anecdote from just this morning, if you Google the terms, "google tasks android," you'll see that the inverse may also be true: Google engineers able and interested to work on something that is a no-op for mysterious reasons.

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by wilfra »

dyno12345 wrote: post #106
wilfra wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*Become indispensable in a role where you are directly responsible for driving billions of dollars in revenue.

Step 1: Become an executive

Step 1 is to be really fucking good at your job, whatever that job is. Ideally that job would be in a unit that is directly responsible for driving revenue growth. That will probably lead to you becoming an executive at some point, but that would be a symptom of your success, a necessary evil, not the starting point.

Especially in a company like Google, which has a cultural disdain for empty suits, if your goal is to "become an executive" you'd never find yourself in his position.

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by OGinparadise »

proexploit wrote: post #99
OGinparadise wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

knowing well that every decision is taken very collectively. There are some many in this article that doesn't fit Google's work culture. So you have a company wide vote on major decisions? That's very interesting. How did you vote on buying Motorola or replacing Yelp and other local results with Google Local? What about Google+ being added to everything?

I don't think he's implying that every employee votes on every decision, just that decisions aren't made by a single person.

I don't think he's implying that every employee votes on every decision, just that decisions aren't made by a single person.

That's obvious, and that's why Google and other corporations have many highly paid executives. But someone has to make the tough decisions, day after day. You should read his original comment

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by dyno12345 »

wilfra wrote: post #107
dyno12345 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: Become an executive

Step 1 is to be really fucking good at your job, whatever that job is. Ideally that job would be in a unit that is directly responsible for driving revenue growth. That will probably lead to you becoming an executive at some point, but that would be a symptom of your success, a necessary evil, not the starting point. Especially in a company like Google, which has a cultural disdain for empty suits, if your goal is to…

I've been really good at my job, and never became an executive. I think there's more to it than that.

Re: Google Paid This Man $100 Million

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Post by theverse »

OGinparadise wrote: post #89
theverse wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for Google and don't think anyone alone can bring this amount of value alone, knowing well that every decision is taken very collectively. There are some many in this article that doesn't fit Google's work culture.

knowing well that every decision is taken very collectively. There are some many in this article that doesn't fit Google's work culture. So you have a company wide vote on major decisions? That's very interesting. How did you vote on buying Motorola or replacing Yelp and other local results with Google Local? What about Google+ being added to everything?

Acquisitions are not everyday's issues, usually beyond L6 and above comments, but sometimes it'll only visible to execs. But certain topics such as "What about Google+ being added to everything?" are actively in discussion.

Disclaimer: I have never worked with Neal Mohan and not familiar with his output. But, product decisions are taken collectively and by relying on data. Anything beyond that doesn't fit Google's culture and internally you'd have a bad time to find engineers that wants to work for you. In order to be in the genius status at Google, you have be a true inventor. We're more or less capable people and giving an impression that Google's core business is run by some 500-600 slides is ridiculous.

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