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Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#101

Post by stephen »

A wire-protocol for debugging/live reload/etc. would be awesome, but especially if it's cross-browser! As an IDE developer, I shouldn't have to do one thing for Chrome, and one thing for FF, just to support the same operations (like set debug point, step in, step out, etc.).

Obviously, yes, they'll be a different set of features at first, but for the overlapping ones, the wire protocol should be the same.

Just look at how painful things were for Selenium/Webdriver; which I now see is moving into the W3C. Hopefully that makes their lives (and our lives as developers) easier if the browsers share a protocol.

(Cross-posted on the blog...how degenerate...)

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by st3fan »

rlx0x wrote: post #35

I find the responses here really strange, has anyone here actually used the devtools in pratice? The firefox devtools seem to me just a awful waste of time from the beginning, they are years behind the competition and the development progress is so slow that I've given up on them. I'm using firefox as my main browser but for web development (dom/css inspection, javascript debugging) there is currently nothing that be…

Can you explain why nothing beats the chrome dev tools?

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#104

Post by gmrple »

didyousaymeow wrote: post #88
sergiotapia wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

Aurelio's used to have amazing pizza before the original owners sold it and it became a franchise. Don't waste your money, there's plenty of better options. Also, I agree with you regarding Chrome's Google search priorities.

Supposedly the one in Homewood, not the origional location, but the origional town and ovens is still good. I enjoy it at least, but I grew up on it.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#105

Post by [deleted] »

didyousaymeow wrote: post #88
sergiotapia wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haha, I just switched from Chrome to Firefox because I hate how Chrome prioritizes Google Search over my previous history. It's idiotic. Here, let me show you a clear example. http://i.imgur.com/uNsh7Yv.png Firefox clearly has the superior bar.

Aurelio's used to have amazing pizza before the original owners sold it and it became a franchise. Don't waste your money, there's plenty of better options. Also, I agree with you regarding Chrome's Google search priorities.

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Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#107

Post by mnemonik »

rhdoenges wrote: post #106

Poking around the wiki I noticed that work is beginning on GCLI, a gui command line. I'm not sure how it's going to get integrated into FF yet (I saw mention of an mdn command, though). I love the demo: https://people.mozilla.com/~jwalker/gcli/

Shift-F2

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#108

Post by woobar »

h2s wrote: post #15

The right-hand-side docking looks absolutely amazing ( http://i.imgur.com/duQOXq7.png ). I have another bit of feedback. The web console has three positions available: Above, Below, and Window. With Firebug, I like to have the console open in another monitor and give the browser viewport maximum screen real estate in front of me. Firefox's web console doesn't let me do this because in "Window" mode it doesn't quite a…

While right-side docking is great, especially for widescreen monitors, separate window for devtools would be much better improvement. In this case anyone can 'dock' them any way they like it. More important, you can have dev tools on one screen and page view on another.

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

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Post by paulrouget »

woobar wrote: post #108
h2s wrote: post #15

The right-hand-side docking looks absolutely amazing ( http://i.imgur.com/duQOXq7.png ). I have another bit of feedback. The web console has three positions available: Above, Below, and Window. With Firebug, I like to have the console open in another monitor and give the browser viewport maximum screen real estate in front of me. Firefox's web console doesn't let me do this because in "Window" mode it doesn't quite a…

While right-side docking is great, especially for widescreen monitors, separate window for devtools would be much better improvement. In this case anyone can 'dock' them any way they like it. More important, you can have dev tools on one screen and page view on another.

> separate window for devtools would be much better improvement

Fixed in Firefox 20

Re: Future of Firefox DevTools

#110

Post by czzarr »

czzarr wrote: post #37

How many devs actually use Firefox's dev tools? I see all of that praise "looks awesome, looks amazing, etc" But do people really use those amazing things? I just find the Chrome dev tools orders of magnitude more usable than Firefox's. It's mostly a large amount of what you could call details but it makes all the difference. It all flows better, reduces the amount of thinking you have to do as well as the number of…

why I am getting downvoted? because I'm not agreeing with the flock? I provided constructive feedback
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