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Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by Marsymars »

ericmay wrote: post #12

Buy a bidet! I thought this was a fun tidbit: "The US accounts for more than 20% of global tissue consumption despite having only 4% of the world’s population. The average American uses 141 rolls of toilet paper per year, making them No 1 for No 2s globally, just ahead of Germans, each using an average of 134 rolls annually." I'm not sure if using a bidet would be better for the environment but maybe this is a blessi…

> I'm also curious, is there any reporting on increases in Canadian prices as a result of their tariffs on American products or does that only go one way?

The current counter-tariffs haven't taken effect yet, but yes, various products saw price increases with the previous sets.

Though TBH, I personally saw more increases in prices from American tariffs on Chinese goods where American sellers couldn't be bothered to sell goods to Canada without first importing to the US and just tacked on a price increase for all buyers. To the best of my ability I've avoided those products/sellers.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by hyperman1 »

dylan604 wrote: post #65
cucumber3732842 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Janitor comes around after business hours and changes any/every roll that isn't damn near full.

Best janitor I've experienced would replace low rolls with new and then set the low roll on top of the dispenser. Of course, the dispenser was the correct shape to allow for that

Around here, public toilets have roll holders containing 2 rolls. 2nd is unreachable, but when the 1st is empty, it falls out and 2nd drops in its place. Janitors just fill the 2nd roll if missing.

I am hoping this is normal around the world and nobody throws away slightly used rolls.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by pupppet »

stuff4ben wrote: post #31
ericmay wrote: post #12

Buy a bidet! I thought this was a fun tidbit: "The US accounts for more than 20% of global tissue consumption despite having only 4% of the world’s population. The average American uses 141 rolls of toilet paper per year, making them No 1 for No 2s globally, just ahead of Germans, each using an average of 134 rolls annually." I'm not sure if using a bidet would be better for the environment but maybe this is a blessi…

Unfortunately I don't have electrical in my toilet closet in my master bath. I'd totally do it though.

Don't need a heated bidet. We get -40C days here and I'll still take the ice-laser to the behind over TP.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by avidruntime »

Gud wrote: post #89
solox3 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess: to weaken Canada's economy, limit Canada's international standing, bankrupt the sovereign state, cause rise of populism and voters thereof, have its people overthrow the government, then absorb the former country as a state to extract its natural resources, to fulfill manifest destiny. Other than the current tariff narrative, it's fairly standard CIA play when we look at what they did to Latin America alrea…

You are overthinking this. Donald Trump wants to make the USA bigger. It will put him in the history books. He also wants a lot of chaos so he can be bribed to stop(he won’t). There is no master plan, just greed.

> There is no master plan, just greed.

This is a thought terminating cliche. This is just the latest move in a long term strategic effort to undermine Canada's sovereignty. Zoom out, and that in it of itself is part of an even broader strategic effort to reorganize alliances which built the world order.

Everywhere there are criticisms of Trump, his administration, and their goals, there is always this commentary which not only fails to serve as an accurate representation of present situations, but more importantly, it serves to distract from the chronology of events which led us here, blinding the broader conversation from creating inferences of what will happen next which stifles the conversation from its most natural next reply: What are they actually doing, and what do we do if it does not benefit us?

You are underthinking this.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by atmavatar »

pavlov wrote: post #55

Why did Republicans pick a fight with Canada? Same energy as a 13-year-old boy bullying his little brother just because of his own hormone-driven insecurity.

Because they're sabotaging the country from within. In this case, they're alienating (former?) allies.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by gopher_space »

agd wrote: post #85
pavlov wrote: post #55

Why did Republicans pick a fight with Canada? Same energy as a 13-year-old boy bullying his little brother just because of his own hormone-driven insecurity.

I think it’s fairly well established that Trump treats trade as a zero sum, single play, game. China is the long term winner here.

The cost of conflict versus collaboration or even competition means everyone loses in the big picture. The waste of resources is immense.

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

mywittyname wrote: post #39
gonzalohm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The average is probably calculated as total toilet paper used / US population. This doesn't mean than the average American uses that much paper. I believe it just means a lot of it is wasted (probably just thrown away without even using it) unsure why though

If TP gets wet, even slightly, it's unusable. Since it's designed to disintegrate upon contact with water.

Not costco's

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by geoka9 »

Gud wrote: post #89
solox3 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess: to weaken Canada's economy, limit Canada's international standing, bankrupt the sovereign state, cause rise of populism and voters thereof, have its people overthrow the government, then absorb the former country as a state to extract its natural resources, to fulfill manifest destiny. Other than the current tariff narrative, it's fairly standard CIA play when we look at what they did to Latin America alrea…

You are overthinking this. Donald Trump wants to make the USA bigger. It will put him in the history books. He also wants a lot of chaos so he can be bribed to stop(he won’t). There is no master plan, just greed.

I think you're overthinking this :)

Donald wants to bully anyone he can into submission; the requirements are designed to be obscene so that agreeing to them is akin to kissing the ring.

That and trying to get more willing sycophants installed in power whenever possible (a little gem hidden in the latest batch of requirements: Canada should stop protecting the French language status. If you know anything about Canada, you know that agreeing to this would be a political suicide for the party in power).

Re: Wiped out: US faces surging toilet paper prices amid trade war with Canada

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Post by pibaker »

vadertemp wrote: post #69
petcat wrote: post #25

Bidets need to become the norm. Canada's massive logging and mineral extraction industries have lead to significantly reduced tree-cover and (in some places) long term deforestation.

Moving from the east to west recently the rarity of and aversion to bidets is one of the strangest things to see in the western world.

Italy is a western country that requires bidets in all homes by law.
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