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Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by bruceboughton »

joeguilmette wrote: post #66
7402 wrote: post #30

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When someone casually states that he has an "80gb collection of pirated music," I assume he feels that the act of copying contrary to the wishes of the copyright holder is either a good thing or, at worst, ethically neutral. For those of us who disagree with this idea, it is important call out instances that seem to minimize the significance of this. By remaining silent, we help encourage behavior we disagree with. O…

I think that our pricing models for media are vestigial remnants of an era that suffered from a distribution problem. When I buy a $15 kindle ebook that is from a publishing house vs a $2 kindle ebook that is self published, I have a sense that the artist in both instances gets a similar amount of money - that is to say, the publishing house is what is making that book expensive. Same with music. The cost of producti…

It is disingenuous to say it has nothing to do with copyright. Copyright is the law your are ignoring when you decide to pirate it because the price is too high.

I presume that if you feel able to opt-out of that law that you wouldn't mind if I opted out of laws designed to protect your interests if I find them inconvenient.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by yardie »

icebraining wrote: post #99
yardie wrote: post #94

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We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it? I want to go back to the system where musicians were rewarded with money to put invest into their next project. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think Spotify nor Pandora are the answer. My musician friends feel like it's the new Payola. They don't like to be on there because the royalties on 1000 pl…

We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it? Nobody is demanding anything of artists; it's artists (well, mostly labels, but also some artists) that are demanding monopolies from society.

¿Que? I'm not even sure how to interpret this statement. Monopolies of what exactly?

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by zizee »

dagw wrote: post #97
pseut wrote: post #87

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>How do I vote with my wallet if I have no time for concerts - but listen to music all day? Buy t-shirts, etc

But most people have no need for dozens of over priced low quality t-shirt with some amateur graphic design scrawled all over it. Sure I could buy them to throw away simply as a round about way to donate money, but there must be a better business model out there.

How about artists with a following ask for crowdfunding for their next project.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by ry0ohki »

batiudrami wrote: post #76
ry0ohki wrote: post #21

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I love that $10 for monthly access to basically every album ever on demand is "a bit high". I remember dropping $16 a pop on CDs/Tapes at Tower Records back in the day, probably bought at least two a month... In terms of your issue with iTunes cover art, didn't they announce some thing where you pay a flat fee and is basically matches all of your illegal music with legal one when iCloud was introduced (I never tried…

Yeah, I think it's incredible that he thinks $10 is too high. Perhaps he means '$10 is too high for a limited and poorly organised music selction'. I would have no problem paying double that each month for Spotify, and upwards of 3-5 times that if it had a music catalogue and organisation structure similar to iTunes. Granted, I value music more than many people, but $10 is what a cheap lunch costs, for unlimited musi…

Spotify's interface really sucks, have you checked out Rdio or Rhapsody?

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by lectrick »

joeguilmette wrote: post #20

Until just recently I was an iTunes power user. I have a 15 year old 80gb collection of pirated music - all full albums, all with pristine metadata and personalized genres. I do not have cover art tho, but I don't really care - until now. iTunes 11 makes a big deal about cover art - their UI is nearly exclusively dependent on it. I don't like thumbnails. When I look at my music, I want a big sortable list. I don't wa…

The funny thing is that the very first thing I did when I first fired up this iTunes version was return it to the track listing view. I did not even discover this color-matching feature until I saw it in Hacker News today!

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by WildBox »

joeguilmette wrote: post #64
forrestthewoods wrote: post #34

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I hope you don't really think that $10 is "bit high, but fair". Spotify is horrible for artists and pays them next to nothing. Assuming you fully own the rights to your music it takes 232,000 plays per month just to make minimum wage for a single artist [1]. Now consider that Spotify, and similar streaming services, are losing money hand over fist and it's obvious this model can not last [2]. Personally I put Spotify…

I know a couple musicians, some of them earn enough to survive thanks to their art, most don't. I know that if I had talent I could create and distribute an album on my laptop and distribute it globally. We used to pay record labels for this. Now we pay them to stand in the way of artists and their fans. Regardless, musicians don't really make money from people listening to their music and never really have - unless…

I found that a lot of punk bands will just put their music on bandcamp or release it for free with the message to buy if you enjoy. Since it's released digitally they aren't losing money on distribution, but only on time spent.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by gurkendoktor »

zizee wrote: post #103
dagw wrote: post #97

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But most people have no need for dozens of over priced low quality t-shirt with some amateur graphic design scrawled all over it. Sure I could buy them to throw away simply as a round about way to donate money, but there must be a better business model out there.

How about artists with a following ask for crowdfunding for their next project.

Puts a lot of burden on the consumer. Background checks; does this artist the potential to deliver good music again? Does the album's concept sound good? Which of the dozens of artists I know are asking for funding? (Not even to think about discovery) Also brings us back to the model of paying for a whole album rather than just the good parts of it.

I have backed exactly one kickstarter project (I think $50) and it was more email friction than all my iTunes purchases combined (maybe $1000?).

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by gurkendoktor »

oofabz wrote: post #84
gurkendoktor wrote: post #80

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> music existed before money ?? Before money, artists still needed food and shelter... > Yet, somehow, there have been professional musicians for likely thousands of years. But does anyone really want to go back to the patronage system?

I want to go back to the system where musicians are not rock stars trying to sell you a product, they are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment.

I don't care if they have a day job or not; but I don't want rock stars selling a product either, which is why I don't think artists making money only through concerts/t-shirts/crowdfunding is a good idea. iTunes and Spotify don't care if an artist is introverted or not.

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by thomaspark »

robflynn wrote: post #7

I do love that feature. I developed something like this a couple years ago for a back office part of a project: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4p5m4719ehvpohc/GUEHcYecYv I don't have a good example of the project any longer, but I took a few snapshots during the development process. My test page allowed you to upload a logo and have the page dynamically change to match the new logo. The link above is a gallery of a few o…

Very cool. Here's my attempt at it, which uses the JS library Color Thief: http://thomaspark.me/project/expandingalbums/

Re: ITunes 11 and Colors

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Post by yarrel »

yardie wrote: post #94
oofabz wrote: post #84

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I want to go back to the system where musicians are not rock stars trying to sell you a product, they are ordinary people with a day job who enjoy making and sharing music for their own entertainment.

We don't demand this of any other profession yet musicians should have a day job and make music for the love of it? I want to go back to the system where musicians were rewarded with money to put invest into their next project. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think Spotify nor Pandora are the answer. My musician friends feel like it's the new Payola. They don't like to be on there because the royalties on 1000 pl…

Your favourite authors and artists have day jobs.

Why should musicians be any different?

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