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Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by yellowapple »

saghm wrote: post #95
yellowapple wrote: post #81

The Linux beta feels nice. Built-in ad-blocking and nested vertical tabs satisfies the two main things keeping me on Firefox (unnerfed uBlock Origin and Tree Style Tabs, respectively). Some things feel like obvious oversights, like the lack of “Search for...” when right-clicking on selected text. Also some of the settings pages are broken (like the one with per-site settings), though I assume this is just a quirk of…

I don't understand what the point of keeping a browser closed-source is. Are they trying to monetize it or something?

It seems like they're indeed trying to sell “Orion+”, but it doesn't look like it buys you much besides bragging rights, in which case an Ardour-like business model of “source code is free but we charge for pre-built binaries” seems like it'd accomplish the same thing.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by jorvi »

yellowapple wrote: post #81

The Linux beta feels nice. Built-in ad-blocking and nested vertical tabs satisfies the two main things keeping me on Firefox (unnerfed uBlock Origin and Tree Style Tabs, respectively). Some things feel like obvious oversights, like the lack of “Search for...” when right-clicking on selected text. Also some of the settings pages are broken (like the one with per-site settings), though I assume this is just a quirk of…

Are browser UIs themselves vectors for serious exploits?

Orion uses WebKit and I assume they try to track as close to the release branch as possible. So if you trust WebKit, you can trust Orion.

Personally I'm more of a Brave guy though, despite having been a Kagi user since 2024 :).

What I'd really wish for is an EU browser that 'just works'. Vivaldi is nice but it often has papercuts because it has a small team behind it that have to try to support a mountain of features.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by brikym »

dewey wrote: post #97
cantalopes wrote: post #96

I am not supporting kagi since i found out they fund putin's war via yandex that is fully owned ditrctly by state

That's fair to make as a personal choice, but full context is also important: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

That's a valid reason to use them and very pragmatic of Kagi. Sometimes jurisdiction A wants to hide something but it's on jurisdiction B's search results. If I were a Kagi subscriber I wouldn't want my search degraded because of a vocal minority.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by Razengan »

lostlogin wrote: post #99
dewey wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's fair to make as a personal choice, but full context is also important: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

I really wish there was a way to support their amazing product without a cent going the way of the Russian government. I get that there is a stance being taken, and it's an attempt to be apolitical, but that's in itself a political choice.

I wish there was a way to use American products without a cent going to fund American wars, police militarization or global spying.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by maccard »

cantalopes wrote: post #96

I am not supporting kagi since i found out they fund putin's war via yandex that is fully owned ditrctly by state

What browser or search engine do you use? I’m pretty sure I can find a reason to morally oppose it for you.

Re: Orion Browser by Kagi

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Post by [deleted] »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #92
yellowapple wrote: post #81

The Linux beta feels nice. Built-in ad-blocking and nested vertical tabs satisfies the two main things keeping me on Firefox (unnerfed uBlock Origin and Tree Style Tabs, respectively). Some things feel like obvious oversights, like the lack of “Search for...” when right-clicking on selected text. Also some of the settings pages are broken (like the one with per-site settings), though I assume this is just a quirk of…

> Built-in ad-blocking Definitely enjoying this trend. I think Brave was the first to do it, and now Kagi is doing it too in their own browser. The web without adblocking is so unusable it might as well be considered broken. Ad blockers are the new popup blockers: they should be built into the browsers themselves as first class features. Only conflicts of interest prevented that. Couldn't trust a company funded by Go…

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