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Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by stavros »

justjash wrote: post #57
rmunn wrote: post #29

From the article: "... there is no other Internet, just a place with five corporate towns and some Chinese ones that are really hard to visit if you don’t speak Chinese." Yeah, that's only true if you don't hang out in the old-style Internet. I spend most of my time on blogs, reading and replying to discussions on wide-ranging topics, talking to interesting people who know a lot more than I do about many subjects (in…

I miss all the old forums that have died out. Still some gems out there, but not nearly as active anymore as far as my hobbies and interest go.

I really don't like hearing people complain that they miss communities that have died out. You can't expect someone else to create a community, because what you're going to get is a corporation creating one in exchange for money.

If you miss a community, go be a part of one, that'll help everyone! I'm a part of a maker community and it's fantastic, the only thing that's missing is more makers talking about the weird stuff they're building!

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by parineum »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #76
everdrive wrote: post #19

I really like this style of writing in short bursts, and I appreciate the author's tone and concerns. I do wonder if the author is very young. As much as I enjoyed his small essay, a few things stuck right out at me: >I tried having a flip phone once (2014), but you couldn’t find out what time the movies were playing because moviephone just redirected you to their app. This has been a solved problem for a long time:…

>This has been a solved problem for a long time: you look up the movie times and such prior to departing for the movies. No smartphone needed. Strangely, not everyone is at home when they decide to go to the movies.

It can be it's own "adventure" just to go to the movies and pick something that's playing. You can end up seeing a movie you wouldn't have because you didn't spend 20 minutes reading the negative reviews of and it turns out to be fun.

I discovered a lot of new things by being forced to make choices from limited set of options.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by [deleted] »

ozozozd wrote: post #84

Oh god, George is getting old. Sounding like an old guy. What does that say about me? I used to find him childish. Jokes aside I also didn’t like him. Until I heard him on that podcast with the Russian-American dude whose name I can’t remember and can’t be bothered to search right now. I was surprised to start find that I would like George, because he said he was religious and I generally dislike people who capitaliz…

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Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by krapp »

NetMageSCW wrote: post #94
krapp wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spend some time on HN reading people's comments about how AI frees them and liberates their minds and lets them be creative in ways that were never possible before and how anyone who thinks otherwise is just a Luddite. You'll realize how not obvious it is to many people. You (collective you, not you personally) are just consuming a product. The LLM is a product. The model is a product. You're reheating spam from the…

Or are they right and you’re the one saying if you don’t know how to saddle a horse and rub it down you shouldn’t consider yourself a driver?

Thank you for demonstrating my point so perfectly.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by CamperBob2 »

hptnrr wrote: post #17

ChatGPT does not know more than you. The fallacy is always that you compare AI to a human without literature references and a database. This is most egregious in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example. Would Carlsen have won game six against Nepo if Nepo had had a tablebase? No, it was a draw many times. Hacker culture has slowly been subverted since the mediocre developers of open source pro…

ChatGPT does not know more than you.

You'd have to be deluded or deranged to believe that. Even if it does nothing else, it "knows" more than any human alive.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by smitty1e »

> And it’s not like there’s anywhere to go. The real world is strip malls and axe throwing and escape rooms.

While the ersatz realms of AI regress to the mean, religious traditions chug on, bringing joy to adherents.

Find your community of faith.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by CamperBob2 »

1Bas-12g wrote: post #80
NitpickLawyer wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> in chess engines that literally have endgame databases for example You / Carlsen / anyone will not beat a top chess engine even without the endgame databases. In the vast majority of cases you / anyone won't even reach that part (7piece / 8piece for some positions). > ChatGPT does not know more than you Yes, yes it does. Your fallacy is that you confuse knowledge with "knowing what to do when you don't have that kn…

LLms are a cleverly encoded database. It is a lookup. A very fast librarian with a select material of reference books and adept at speed reading could give the same answers as LLMs. A bit slower of course. Most of the time an encyclopedia would suffice and be more accurate than the hallucinating ghosts in the machine. EDIT: The insane downvoters can go back to their AI girlfriends. The comment was meant for thinking…

A very fast librarian with a select material of reference books and adept at speed reading could give the same answers as LLMs.

This is called the "Chinese Room" argument, postulating that a human equipped with a Borgesian library of reference books in a language he doesn't understand and a symbolic lookup table for that language can emulate a thinking human mind without actually thinking.

It was controversial for decades, and is now known not to hold up at all. (Or to hold up perfectly, if unlike Searle your goal is to show that human minds are nothing all that special.) To the extent that the room's occupant succeeds at a task that requires thinking, he is thinking... end of story. Simulated intelligence is now known, thanks to LLMs, to be indistinguishable from real intelligence.

Ask the operator of a Chinese room, who doesn't know Chinese or math, for a novel proof of an unsolved conjecture. The LLM can give you one, but your hypothetical reference librarian won't even know what to look up at first. By the time they learn, the core premise of the argument will no longer hold true.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by iamnothere »

inigyou wrote: post #90
iamnothere wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The key, as I’ve been saying lately, is to begin building more local networks (meshes, IP over radio, sneakernets) that are totally disconnected from the normal internet. Put up a BBS that your friends can only get to by connecting over radio, or set up a private Reticulum chat with a functional non-Internet access path. Maybe set up a neighborhood wifi captive portal message board on an ESP32, hidden in a solar ligh…

But they're objectively inferior to the real internet and nobody uses them. People only use Meshtastic to say "hello, I'm using Meshtastic!" A cool idea would be to build out an ISP to a small set of hub locations using leased lines or illegally placed fiber something, but that will get expensive. I heard someone have an idea to use a drone to lay illegal fiber across city rooftops.

Hams do stuff like this all the time, as a hobby. But yes, most people won’t be that interested. The experience isn’t the same as regular internet (and that’s ok).

If you have line of sight, or can borrow a tower that does, you could always use point-to-point wireless or laser links to build a high bandwidth backbone. This would let you play LAN games if that makes it more interesting.

I concede that most people aren’t going to be interested in this. It is what it is.

Re: Punk, or why I don't stream anymore

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Post by ludicrousdispla »

3form wrote: post #50

This really does - I don't mean it in a disparaging way - read like a mid-life crisis writing. Having to come to terms with the fact that the "old world" is not the current world anymore, which is too bad, because you like the old one, and you don't quite fit in the new one either. This feeling has existed across generations and most of us have to go through it eventually. The world, however, is not any less real tha…

>> it’s not like there’s anywhere to go. The real world is strip malls and axe throwing and escape rooms.

The author really needs a change of scenery. 'Strip malls and axe throwing' sounds like a minor update to the 'strip malls and TGIFs' of the `90's.

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