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“ I was ready to enter the workforce and become independent as early as possible. I got into tech through certifications like MCP, MCSA, and A+ (they were all the rage back then), which was enough to land a helpdesk job at 18.”

Same sentiments, if you had an MCSE you were hirable everywhere. A+ put you ahead of the pack and was lifetime back then.

The early 00s were def a time. This is how I started too and also just recently completed my bachelors and now doing a masters.

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CS degree is not all that fun. You’re better off doing math and just learning to code on the side.

I recommend it. I got a masters in Math, learned how to code, and now I'm a software engineer. Math was a lot of fun. Honestly, the best take away from my degree was that learning math concepts is often so obtuse/difficult it makes learning anything else seem relatively easy. It took away that fear of "I can't learn this" when approaching a new topic.

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I have a similar trajectory. I attended two very competitive military schools in Brazil but never finished and moved to America. Today I’m a senior software engineer at a FAANG company. The lack of diploma has never been a barrier and I progressed very quickly in the company from junior to senior (4 years). But this has always been a perceived pain point and limiter for me so I decided to get a CS degree during COVID…

> got accepted at Johns Hopkins Masters in AI (online). Anyone had any experience with that program? Thoughts? Not worth the tuition. GATech and UT Austin is highly respected and they only costs $6k and $10k respectively for their OMSCS. The only online CS degree programs I can think of that are actively taught by top faculty and don't break the bank are GT, UT Austin, and UIUC.

Agree on the list, I would say GT is hardest to get in, but most inexpensive. While the later two are much easier.

I also suggest reading Dr. Joyners’ Reddit posts and books, they helped me quite a bit and I do want to reiterate that if you need help on admission and completed the EDX cs50(?) course, you can personally email him, as it’s stated on one of the last slides.

All around an amazing program that I hope to one day do, but I went the UIUC for business for now.

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I have a similar trajectory. I attended two very competitive military schools in Brazil but never finished and moved to America. Today I’m a senior software engineer at a FAANG company. The lack of diploma has never been a barrier and I progressed very quickly in the company from junior to senior (4 years). But this has always been a perceived pain point and limiter for me so I decided to get a CS degree during COVID…

> got accepted at Johns Hopkins Masters in AI (online). Anyone had any experience with that program? Thoughts? Not worth the tuition. GATech and UT Austin is highly respected and they only costs $6k and $10k respectively for their OMSCS. The only online CS degree programs I can think of that are actively taught by top faculty and don't break the bank are GT, UT Austin, and UIUC.

For break-the-bank options, Stanford and Columbia have good programs too.

If you're looking at the potential returns to a graduate degree in a high paying field, $60k spread over a few years isn't an insane investment, but yes, it is worth considering the value vs. GATech/UT Austin.

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> got accepted at Johns Hopkins Masters in AI (online). Anyone had any experience with that program? Thoughts? Not worth the tuition. GATech and UT Austin is highly respected and they only costs $6k and $10k respectively for their OMSCS. The only online CS degree programs I can think of that are actively taught by top faculty and don't break the bank are GT, UT Austin, and UIUC.

For break-the-bank options, Stanford and Columbia have good programs too. If you're looking at the potential returns to a graduate degree in a high paying field, $60k spread over a few years isn't an insane investment, but yes, it is worth considering the value vs. GATech/UT Austin.

Columbia as a program isn't worth $70k in tuition, and the Columbia name doesn't open any doors that GT or UT Austin couldn't unless you live in NYC or China.

Stanford HCP is great (I've worked with plenty of their grads), but a large portion end up switching to FT because Stanford is a once in a lifetime experience.

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I got a Bachelor, Master, and PhD in Computer Science, with a total of 11 years of education. It's the biggest waste of time of my entire life. As I progress in my professional career I'm more convinced that pretty much everything in tech is on-the-job learning, and universities are little more than a social club. Nowadays you can learn everything you do at university and far more online and for free. Universities (e…

I'm currently finishing my bachelor in CS in Rome, and have been feeling this often. I'm 24 and feel a bit lost. When I started 5 years ago I had never programmed (in my high school we studied latin for 5 years, and I don't remember a single word), and basically had to teach myself Python for an exam, delaying the others, (we had 4 exams per semester, and couldn't keep it up). Then I had the opportunity to start work…

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Re: Completing a computer science degree on Coursera

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I got a Bachelor, Master, and PhD in Computer Science, with a total of 11 years of education. It's the biggest waste of time of my entire life. As I progress in my professional career I'm more convinced that pretty much everything in tech is on-the-job learning, and universities are little more than a social club. Nowadays you can learn everything you do at university and far more online and for free. Universities (e…

As someone who's self-taught, I find this argument tantalizingly validating, but I'm constantly reminded that universities offer more than just the material. Between peer networks and "alumni" connections or even just the ability to email a former professor or TA for advice, these opportunities just aren't really available independently. Skipping college might not limit what you can learn but it sure narrows the network and institutional support available to you.

Re: Completing a computer science degree on Coursera

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I have a similar trajectory. I attended two very competitive military schools in Brazil but never finished and moved to America. Today I’m a senior software engineer at a FAANG company. The lack of diploma has never been a barrier and I progressed very quickly in the company from junior to senior (4 years). But this has always been a perceived pain point and limiter for me so I decided to get a CS degree during COVID…

Congrats! I am also an autodidact who desired a stronger school name on my resume after a long run in startups, so I took a senior engineering role at Johns Hopkins.

I'm not affiliated with the engineering school or familiar with their curriculum. It may not be as famous as the schools of medicine or public health, but in general they are quite good.

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> Yeah but writing detailed blog posts about the experience is usually a signal pointing toward the former group Writing detailed blog posts about the experience is rather usually a signal that the person is an annoying self-promoter. :-(

Same issue with the cert collector. Some people with certs and some people with blogs are legit. A lot of them are really eager to be seen and that's it.

Some people are legit and some people are not. Got it. Thanks for the clarification and analysis.

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> But the problem is that as an engineering discipline, software engineering is just profoundly underwhelming. There are basically no universally-respected design best practices, no governing bodies, no calculations of safety limits, no nothing. I somewhat disagree: there exist a lot of deep questions in software engineering, and there do exist some (very, very partial) answers. The problem rather is that most people…

When you say “political“, what do you mean? It’s easy for me to relate to talk of software development aesthetics or philosophy and I’ve certainly had plenty of conversations that I think are accurately described that way. But I can’t think of software development discussions that I’d describe as political (except in the sense that politics is what happens when people disagree on anything).

Depends on your organization I suppose.

Some places you see people pushing their Shiny New Rewrite, basically as resume fodder or promo packet material.

I describe that kind of decision as political because it doesn’t seem to come with a legitimate cost-benefit analysis.

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