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US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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We should all keep in mind that foreign interests, primarily China, are astroturfing to drive resentment in the USA against AI and datacenters. National governments are largely viewing AI as a strategic capability. That’s not to say there aren’t downsides, but they vary quite a bit depending on location and grid capacity. I actually expect there will be major progress made on the energy efficiency and performance of…

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Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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This latest round of projects are often located within or next to communities too, where most pre-AI projects were more out of the way, increasing immediately visible impact dramatically via noise and air and water pollution.

I've been flagging nearly every HN post that has anything to do with AI, even negative. The quicker we get "AI" out of our zeitgeist, the better. AI isn't even a solid term, the term "artificial intelligence" is almost 100 years old at this point, and the definition has changed so many times that it's a useless term. ELIZA was "AI". But it didn't have the same level of societal damage. HAL 9000 was "AI". Games have "…

awesome so someone young like me who comes here for bleeding edge entrepreneurship and tech discussion, is getting that discussion stifled by a non-microsoft seattle fossil born in the late 60's. i bet you still drink starbucks too while flagging ai articles. why cant i engage in these discussions?

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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I've been flagging nearly every HN post that has anything to do with AI, even negative. The quicker we get "AI" out of our zeitgeist, the better. AI isn't even a solid term, the term "artificial intelligence" is almost 100 years old at this point, and the definition has changed so many times that it's a useless term. ELIZA was "AI". But it didn't have the same level of societal damage. HAL 9000 was "AI". Games have "…

awesome so someone young like me who comes here for bleeding edge entrepreneurship and tech discussion, is getting that discussion stifled by a non-microsoft seattle fossil born in the late 60's. i bet you still drink starbucks too while flagging ai articles. why cant i engage in these discussions?

That's a whole lot of presumption about who I am, so much so that it deserves flagging. I'm not anywhere close to Redmond and you don't know me at all.

Pro tip: I live in Tennessee. Don't worry, you get to insult that state all you want. Fuck Tennessee.

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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And a wall between the two was built a decade ago. Considering it was hit on day one, obviously it was considered an important target, which makes it inexcusable that nobody checked it in a decade. https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/4314de...

A navy base on the contested straight of hormuz is always going to be a priority target. Militaries have pre existing contingency plans. Typically military bases don't move very fast.

A decade to realise that a military base has been resized and there is an obvious school on what used to be a part of the same property isn't fast.

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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I've been flagging nearly every HN post that has anything to do with AI, even negative. The quicker we get "AI" out of our zeitgeist, the better. AI isn't even a solid term, the term "artificial intelligence" is almost 100 years old at this point, and the definition has changed so many times that it's a useless term. ELIZA was "AI". But it didn't have the same level of societal damage. HAL 9000 was "AI". Games have "…

Hacker news Sans Ai https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai

and news.ycombinator.com/active to find those flagged articles

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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awesome so someone young like me who comes here for bleeding edge entrepreneurship and tech discussion, is getting that discussion stifled by a non-microsoft seattle fossil born in the late 60's. i bet you still drink starbucks too while flagging ai articles. why cant i engage in these discussions?

That's a whole lot of presumption about who I am, so much so that it deserves flagging. I'm not anywhere close to Redmond and you don't know me at all. Pro tip: I live in Tennessee. Don't worry, you get to insult that state all you want. Fuck Tennessee.

local h was a nirvana precursor and im not doing a flamewar but just one or two foot tappers from them thats it.

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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I'm curious how the HN zeitgeist hates datacenters so ferociously yet every third article posted to the front page is 800 comments beating off to a new Claude feature. It's mind-boggling.

Half the traffic on this site are real, intelligent humans (among whom opinion is split different ways on the AI topic), a quarter of the traffic is propagandists trying to destroy western tech/infrastructure/society (notice how China apparently doesn't have to stop AI development or datacenter development, only the West does), and the remaining quarter is real humans who have been utterly consumed by the previously…

I struggle sometimes to accept this. This site has been fostering great, curious discussion thanks to everyone diligently following the posting guidelines. As such, if everyone was discussing curiously, how could one simply parrot propaganda? It's unfathomable, and worse, goes against the commenting guidelines.

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Did our demand for social media apps suddenly blow up? Because our DC demand seems to be blowing up.

I'm curious how the HN zeitgeist hates datacenters so ferociously yet every third article posted to the front page is 800 comments beating off to a new Claude feature. It's mind-boggling.

> yet every third article posted to the front page is 800 comments beating off to a new Claude feature

In addition to the bot farms, many in the AI related fields have plenty of perverse incentives to participate - for reasons other than genuine interest. That's why I don't read those threads, although the marketing angle is easy to see it's also prevalent and laboring to filter out all 90% of it isn't worth the effort.

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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A navy base on the contested straight of hormuz is always going to be a priority target. Militaries have pre existing contingency plans. Typically military bases don't move very fast.

A decade to realise that a military base has been resized and there is an obvious school on what used to be a part of the same property isn't fast.

"isn't fast" is basically how you'd sum up the U.S. military in a nutshell.

So much of what it is in the past 3 decades is coasting off its Cold War legacy.

Target lists for an Iran scenario should absolutely have been updated before use for combat, but if it turned out they had not been substantively reviewed ab initio in a decade, I'd absolutely believe it.

Re: US residents angry datacenters 'shoved down our throats' are recalling officials

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The honeymoon is over. Among regular citizens, gamers and some groups of tech, many are now incensed by the cost of memory, I was once mildly enthusiastic about AI but now not so much.

Demand crunches spur supply chain capacity improvements when the market is left alone from populist interventions.

That only happens if the producers don't

a) believe the crunch is caused by a bubble that's going to pop in a few months, or

b) see the crunch as primarily an opportunity to rake in enormous short-term profits.

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