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Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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performance is quite impressive given that its 3x cheaper than 5.5

The speed was impressive when I tested it but unfortunately the accuracy left a lot to be desired. Be interesting to do the math on some of my normal workflows to see where the break even is between them, assuming the tasks you have can tolerate a couple of failures.

we are talking about computer use here

gemini 3.5 flash isn't meant to compete head to head with frontier models on tough problems

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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So... has Google provided a Codex/Claude Code equivalent to Gemini yet? I would like to use Gemini for coding tasks, but that's kind of difficult to do as I don't even know how to get Gemini to even "clone this repo and read the code in it for static analysis", much less open PRs in repos. ChatGPT/Codex can do it, Claude can do it, why can't Gemini? And no, I don't mean going through Antigravity, and personally I'm w…

no. gemini's instruction following is currently abysmal. Gemini CLI could be a great scaffold for all we know, but we cant know because the models it uses are so horribly bad at being driven in that way. no clue why google has dropped the ball this hard on IF.

They have a 3.1-pro-customtools model which they allege its better at using custom tools/MCPs/etc.

It is not better.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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So... has Google provided a Codex/Claude Code equivalent to Gemini yet? I would like to use Gemini for coding tasks, but that's kind of difficult to do as I don't even know how to get Gemini to even "clone this repo and read the code in it for static analysis", much less open PRs in repos. ChatGPT/Codex can do it, Claude can do it, why can't Gemini? And no, I don't mean going through Antigravity, and personally I'm w…

Antigravity CLI (which replaced Gemini CLI): https://antigravity.google/product/antigravity-cli

So a couple weeks ago I decided to pay some money for the Gemini API cause I'd found myself getting a lot of use out of the free tier chat and figured they deserved some of my cash.

First headache was a lot of delays and 'service unavailable due to excessive load messages'. Second headache was a lot of frustration with the Continue plugin in my IDE. Gemini chat suggests I try the Antigravity app. I do so. IT's OK. Launch it on an agentic task, it gets part way through and stops, asking me to subscribe. Try getting it to use some of the Gemini credits I paid for a few days earlier. Turns out Antigravity is developed by a completely separate team within Google and they don't recognize or accommodate Gemini credits because they are trying to maintain budgetary independence so as to maintain operational autonomy Gemini. At least, that's the explanation Gemini (free tier) offered for why Antigravity (Free/subscription only) won't accept Gemini (prepaid/subscription) payments. What a time to be alive.

You won't be surprised to learn I switched to a competitor.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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Today I asked Gemini to extract a table from an PDF appendix and create C++ data table with its contents. After 15 or so iterations with corrections and new mistakes, it eventually gave up. I was floored when it said “I’m sorry, I cannot do this simple task, I’ve exceeded my error threshold and cannot do this task for you. My LLM prediction engine invents data instead of doing a simple data copy/reformat”. Stunned to…

My go-to for this is to screenshot and use the built-in text extraction in the screenshot tool (I'm on a mac), then pass on that text data to whatever processing. It's a pretty good tool so long as the PDF is in OK shape (I've had errors in scanned images).

It's so horrible that in 2026 people are still publishing important data and specifications in a format like PDF that's difficult for LLMs to consume. We need to drag them kicking and screaming to HTML or Markdown. Heck, even Microsoft Word DOCX is superior for reliable parsing and content extraction.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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This is why I don't always use the official Gemini Web app. Lately I've found that it's more useful to utilize a CLI. I'm looking forward to the day they add MCP in the web.

Gemini CLi now requires antigravity subscription..

I tried antigravity. It absolutey sucks in comparison. Given up on Google

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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That's better than the loop grok got stuck in trying to use git and push the work it did leading to a $15 api credit deduction.

Getting AI/ML to acknowledge "I don't know" is such a challenge.

This is why the world model approach is so important. It allows you to feed back the prediction accuracy of the model to itself at training time, enabling it to predict (to some degree) its own uncertainty. If you jump through a couple of hoops you can also do this at run time to give it “spidey sense” that something’s not right with current inference.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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Gemini Flash 3.5 (through agy) ran `git reset --hard` when I asked it to commit my changes, apparently it thought it was better to have a clean repo before `git add`. Of course I'm not trusting my computer to it. When will we have 3.5 Pro?

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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post #90

So... has Google provided a Codex/Claude Code equivalent to Gemini yet? I would like to use Gemini for coding tasks, but that's kind of difficult to do as I don't even know how to get Gemini to even "clone this repo and read the code in it for static analysis", much less open PRs in repos. ChatGPT/Codex can do it, Claude can do it, why can't Gemini? And no, I don't mean going through Antigravity, and personally I'm w…

no. gemini's instruction following is currently abysmal. Gemini CLI could be a great scaffold for all we know, but we cant know because the models it uses are so horribly bad at being driven in that way. no clue why google has dropped the ball this hard on IF.

I think 3.5 Flash is supposed to improve the long-range instruction following.

I haven't tried it at that because for the short range tasks I gave it I found it around Sonnet level, but slower (because it takes more tries!) which makes it more expensive.

The old Flash models were great because they were fast.

3.5 Flash shows Google can work around the old "Good, Fast or Cheap: Pick any two" thing by picking none of them.

Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

#109

So... has Google provided a Codex/Claude Code equivalent to Gemini yet? I would like to use Gemini for coding tasks, but that's kind of difficult to do as I don't even know how to get Gemini to even "clone this repo and read the code in it for static analysis", much less open PRs in repos. ChatGPT/Codex can do it, Claude can do it, why can't Gemini? And no, I don't mean going through Antigravity, and personally I'm w…

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Re: Computer use in Gemini 3.5 Flash

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I think there's a sweet spot- a lot of the time you're probably better off with "reverse engineer this web page and build me an API or personalized chrome extension to meet my needs". I have an agent doing price checks for me for an item on a certain website. Instead of blasting through a zillion tokens processing the DOM over and over, it loaded the page once and figured out how to download a json with the price.

Does it have to view the page now repeatedly to download the JSON?

The tool it built will do viewing, probably.
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