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Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by try-working »

cassianoleal wrote: post #13
segmondy wrote: post #9

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there is no debacle, ". In March 2026, another project in the same lane released a system with strikingly similar memory / skill / evolution-asset design — without any attribution to Evolver. " there is nothing new about memory (aka sessions saved), skills (aka prompt in a file), etc folks have been doing this for 2+ years.

I'm sorry but if this is not a debacle, then we're operating under very different premises: - teknium1 retitled the original issue to "." and edited the issue text to "." - Nous Research deleted comments from 4 users, including the issue submitter, and blocked all of them. - No formal response has been given by teknium or the Nous Research project. It appears they are trying their darndest to brush it under the rug.…

Evolver claims are complete nonsense. Teknium has responded several times on Twitter. This is a closed issue.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by Rekindle8090 »

Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

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Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by onel »

nlitened wrote: post #47
Multiplayer wrote: post #20

My simple take: Hermes is for the less technical and is more polished. OpenClaw is deeper with more capabilities. OpenClaw has come so far since its' original launch/craze. I recommend taking a second look if you haven't touched it in a while. If for no other reason than it's just a really fun playground with a LOT of areas to experiment in. Setup a myriad of agents with various models, skills, cron jobs, etc. The co…

About three weeks ago I was seduced by people singing praise to OpenClaw, and also by the fact that OpenClaw team burns millions of dollars of tokens per month on developing it — surely it must be good. It turned out to be probably the crappiest, glitchiest piece of software I’ve used in the past few years. Its basic onboarding workflow was completely broken, GUI was a hallucinated mess. Also it turned out that not a…

I don't think I share your experience. I've been using open claw for the past 3 months and it has some quirks but it works pretty well. The web UI is not the nicest but it gets the job done and you rarely interact with it through that interface. You use telegram, WhatsApp, discord, etc. The CLI install flow is one of the best I've seen. It really takes you through every single step to set everything up. I've helped organized the Openclaw events in Dublin where we usually have 80 to 100 people come and we've seen great success with the install flow. Especially for non-technical people. The biggest issue was with Windows and WSL but other than that no major problems. It's not perfect but it works pretty well.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by onel »

isoprophlex wrote: post #34

I don't get it, why not put codex/claude code/opencode in a docker container and be done with it?

It's not really the same thing. They're different tools. Open claw is targeted more towards non-technical people.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by adampunk »

urbandw311er wrote: post #76
_pdp_ wrote: post #23

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I might be a little more paranoid than most because of my profession, but none of these projects inspire enough trust to justify being installed - let alone directly on the machine I use every day. OpenClaw, at least initially, and Hermes both appear to have been heavily astroturfed using all kinds of blackhat tactics, which is a huge red flag to me. And then there is the code.

This doesn’t get called out enough. Although actually come to think of it, I think it could be against HN guidelines to accuse things of being Astroturfed!

There’s also no evidence for it aside from “stars go up too much” and “my social circle isn’t talking about it”, so that could be a reason!

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by ransom1538 »

deadbabe wrote: post #94
ransom1538 wrote: post #54

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I don't understand people running OpenClaw. I just full shot a prompt to create a better clone. Its extremely custom to my work and flow. I use it as a personal agent, emails, slacks + as a hardcore coding agent. If it sees a problem in email it will create a ticket, assign it to an agent monitor progress, get a PR ready for me - then it harasses me until I review the PR. If I ignore the PR it will call my wife. It c…

You can build your own, but it won’t give you social currency the way it does when you just tell people “Yea I use OpenClaw”. They already know OpenClaw and what it’s about so you instantly gain rapport vs having to explain your custom agent system that they will doubt is better than OpenClaw and probably write you off as a crank.

Good point, I will make it OpenClaw alpha

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by rrvsh »

pkulak wrote: post #99
rrvsh wrote: post #95

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Dendritic flake! Love to see it. Curious though, if you just import the default.nix and the default.nix imports everything, why not just import everything in modules/ and hosts/?

Hmmm... not sure I understand. My setup recursively imports every default.nix in modules and hosts. About that... I don't have a really great defense. It's how the little template I started out with did it. :D I do like it though.

the usual practise when using flake-parts and import-tree is to forego the default.nix completely and just import the entire folder without needing to explicitly register each file in a default.nix. you can view an example at my flake here:

https://github.com/rrvsh/tools/blob/256b38535d62a2930ad27161... https://github.com/rrvsh/tools/tree/256b38535d62a2930ad27161...

but its just a different way to do things, not a better way! if you like it, you should keep it :)

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by pkulak »

rrvsh wrote: post #107
pkulak wrote: post #99

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Hmmm... not sure I understand. My setup recursively imports every default.nix in modules and hosts. About that... I don't have a really great defense. It's how the little template I started out with did it. :D I do like it though.

the usual practise when using flake-parts and import-tree is to forego the default.nix completely and just import the entire folder without needing to explicitly register each file in a default.nix. you can view an example at my flake here: https://github.com/rrvsh/tools/blob/256b38535d62a2930ad27161... https://github.com/rrvsh/tools/tree/256b38535d62a2930ad27161... but its just a different way to do things, not a be…

Oh! Yes, you're totally right. I remember going to a bit of trouble in the beginning to filter to default.nix, because yes, the template absolutely just imported everything. I must have had some good reason, but that reason is lost to time.

Maybe because I have stuff like this: https://github.com/pkulak/nix/blob/main/modules/features/jai...

Not totally sure, but I feel like importing that wouldn't work. Probably you're supposed to put packages in their own place, I guess. But yeah, what I've got works. haha

Unrelated, but thanks for sharing your config! There are a lot of really good ideas in there, and I've only looked at a few files.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by johntash »

JaceComix wrote: post #28

When I dropped my Claude sub a few months ago I first went to try pi. At first I was a little overwhelmed by having to browse extensions to get the experience I want (coupled with finding new model providers to use). So I looked elsewhere and found Crush and Hermes. They're both very a e s t h e t i c, which I think can make using them fun, but ultimately if I had a nitpick, I would look back over at pi, and the gras…

what model(s) did you end up using with pi?

I want to move away from claude but don't have the hardware for "good" local llms, and would rather use a ZDR api instead of one of the big apis for privacy reasons.

Re: Migrate from OpenClaw

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Post by tanjeenaferra »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #92
pkulak wrote: post #81

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I tried OpenClaw, but holy smokes, that project is bigger than Postrgres. All I want is a Pi session I can put on a server and load up with skills, that I can chat with over matrix. To that end, I found this amazing project called OpenCrow. It's aggressively DM chat, and I wanted support for group chats (so it can be a household helper), so I forked* it and made it exactly what I want. Now I actually have two persona…

This is a genuinely interesting project. Thanks for sharing it for what its worth, I think it fits my definition of minimalist for the most part. Do you have anything for pi in general as well? I have currently tried out oh-my-pi and (well previously opencode) and I know about https://zot.sh for something completely in golang and also https://maki.sh/ both of which are created by another HN user. I have found project…

I have my own little Claw running with Telegram Connect and a Gmail CLI npm package on a Raspberry Pi (3 is fast enough) and it's based on zot.sh (that thing is so damn fast and resource-efficient).
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