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EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

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Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

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Most of the issues you mentioned are more likely to be specific to you own country. The EU is pretty limited in what it can do due to Europe being so afraid to federate

> The EU is pretty limited in what it can do due Thank god for that. Enjoy it while it lasts. >do due to Europe being so afraid to federate Why would they be afraid? Yugoslavia, USSR and any other time in history where you force similar but not really cultures under one central leadership, it ended up great in the end, they didn't fight or break up at all. So what's to be afraid of? Yeah, why bother with that pesky d…

Ok so you won’t engage with the fact that you misattributed to the EU issues you have with your local government…

The EU is both weak, powerless, and also that powerful tyrannical entity according to your various comments. You really might want to check your sources of information

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#102
post #97

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You dont have a clue, and are showing EU regulations made by funcionaires that most countries simply ignore. Here is an example of the current situation in Luxembourg for example, where the EU Court is based! They want you to clean up your debts first, well you would not go bankrupt if you could no? And if you look at the remaining conditions for the so called second chance they are impossible to achieve. https://sst…

Living in EU so I am biased but I agree with this. You have to clean your debt or real people suffer. Here is a real example: open a company, buy a small piece of land, section it in smaller pieces, promise you build houses, get people downpayments in cash, syphon all money to other companies with having contracts just a bit bigger than average market price, declare bankruptcy, then start again. You of course have sm…

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Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

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You are supposed to, and I managed only with the help of sending each screen to an LLM, while in English, but the English of the machines is broken. For example when it gets the moment to pay in German, there would be a link to pay, but it wont enable the pin machine because it says in English "pay via association". You have to be an half genius to understand they are referring in English, via a broken translation, t…

On yeah and they will give you a fine. The number of times I have been stopped by police for driving my bike (pedal bike, not motor or electric) in a criminal way!! Oh my, like not having enough lights on it. Or driving it 3 inches outside of the walking lines in denmark. Lol good job police. That is another thing we have in Europe bike stopping police... Lol it is hilarious... But the size of the fine is not. I had…

That seems to be specific to your country, not a European thing

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#104

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> The EU is pretty limited in what it can do due Thank god for that. Enjoy it while it lasts. >do due to Europe being so afraid to federate Why would they be afraid? Yugoslavia, USSR and any other time in history where you force similar but not really cultures under one central leadership, it ended up great in the end, they didn't fight or break up at all. So what's to be afraid of? Yeah, why bother with that pesky d…

Ok so you won’t engage with the fact that you misattributed to the EU issues you have with your local government… The EU is both weak, powerless, and also that powerful tyrannical entity according to your various comments. You really might want to check your sources of information

>Ok so you won’t engage with the fact that you misattributed to the EU issues you have with your local government…

You have it backwards. I trust my local government because I can vote for it, and if they fail to deliver they can have rioters in from of their house, I don't trust EU leadership because I can't vote for it and we can't all travel to Brussels to riot while still making it to work after.

>The EU is both weak, powerless, and also that powerful tyrannical entity according to your various comments.

Why argue in bad faith pretending you can't distinguish what I meant? Eu IS powerless versus China and the US, but it can also act tyrannical over its members who don't play ball on unpopular topics like open borders illegal mass migration with illegal migrants and fake refugees. So it's both weak versus stronger actors and a bully versus weaker actors.

>You really might want to check your sources of information

Please give us your 100% truthful and unbiased sources of information. Or you might want to invest in a brain if you don't see the things I'm talking about happen in real life. Maybe you work in Brussels and your lifestyle depends on getting people to parrot the party line and silence the dissidents.

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#105
post #98

Whenever there is a discussion about EU there are very similar arguments against EU: - Too much birocracy - Too many taxes - Too much regulation that protects workers And I have to remind myself that people writing this are having a bias: they believe that in a system with few taxes (so less public health care, public eduction, less support for unemployment ...) they are on top, they are the ones with money, they are…

>And I have to remind myself that people writing this are having a bias: they believe that in a system with few taxes (so less public health care, public eduction, less support for unemployment ...) they are on top, they are the ones with money, they are the ones that win the game.

What if your assumption here is incorrect and you are more likely projecting? What if there are other reasons people have?

What people are complaining about is that they visually see an increase in taxes and bureaucracy without a proportional increase in what they get back from the government. OFten the contrary. THye pay more and get less. They don't want to cancel all that, they just want their government to be less corrupt and more savvy with how its spends its taxpayers money.

>but it is very important to question yourself about where are you seeing yourself: as the one on top winning from the system or the one that has some needs.

Yes, that's important to ask yourself, But more important would be to ask yourself what happens as more and more people become parts of the "needs" group, who will be left to contribute to fund those with needs? If you compensate by increasing taxes and burden your fewer remaining productive workers to redistribute their labor to a growing pool of unproductive members with needs, your skilled people emigrate and you're left with just the people with needs. Who is then going to pay for all those needs? Raise a Berlin wall to keep them from leaving?

Caring for people in needs is nice, but this isn't' the 1960's anymore when Europe had international monopoly over entire industries and could afford generous welfare. The truth is if you run your government like a charity, you can't compete with major powers that run their country like ruthless corporations or industrial factories. Eventually they will steam roll you with their economic and military might and your former prosperity will be gone in a blink of an eye.

The problem with Europe's needs based system is that it's unsustainable within both its current domestic conditions and the international conditions eroding its wealth, but no EU citizen wants to hear that they system they paid for their whole lives is not working.

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#106
post #42

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>EU will be wise to make that happen on their terms, but they do not seem to be ready. It's too late for this. The time to execute this was 20 years ago when EU had leverage (the EU stock market was bigger than the US one in 2004, now it's half). Now that leverage is gone and EU is bogged down with massive domestic issues it can't recover from (some of which you mentioned), and starting a massive tech IP/trade war no…

> the EU stock market was bigger than the US one in 2004, now it's half I feel this is mostly to do with the EU having more companies that stay private for longer and partly to do with the USA's currency manipulation which maintains the dollar value artificially high.

Every country is free to manipulate its own currency.

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

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>EU will be wise to make that happen on their terms, but they do not seem to be ready. It's too late for this. The time to execute this was 20 years ago when EU had leverage (the EU stock market was bigger than the US one in 2004, now it's half). Now that leverage is gone and EU is bogged down with massive domestic issues it can't recover from (some of which you mentioned), and starting a massive tech IP/trade war no…

You spend too much time online. The EU isn't bogged down with issues, it has uplifted an enormous part of itself out of abject post-communist poverty and yes growth isn't as fast, but it also isn't foisting as much debt on its citizens or working everyone to death. The problems you hear about on the news make the news because they are newsworthy, not because they are normal occurrences.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48528379

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#108
post #97

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You dont have a clue, and are showing EU regulations made by funcionaires that most countries simply ignore. Here is an example of the current situation in Luxembourg for example, where the EU Court is based! They want you to clean up your debts first, well you would not go bankrupt if you could no? And if you look at the remaining conditions for the so called second chance they are impossible to achieve. https://sst…

Living in EU so I am biased but I agree with this. You have to clean your debt or real people suffer. Here is a real example: open a company, buy a small piece of land, section it in smaller pieces, promise you build houses, get people downpayments in cash, syphon all money to other companies with having contracts just a bit bigger than average market price, declare bankruptcy, then start again. You of course have sm…

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Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#109
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You dont have a clue, and are showing EU regulations made by funcionaires that most countries simply ignore. Here is an example of the current situation in Luxembourg for example, where the EU Court is based! They want you to clean up your debts first, well you would not go bankrupt if you could no? And if you look at the remaining conditions for the so called second chance they are impossible to achieve. https://sst…

Living in EU so I am biased but I agree with this. You have to clean your debt or real people suffer. Here is a real example: open a company, buy a small piece of land, section it in smaller pieces, promise you build houses, get people downpayments in cash, syphon all money to other companies with having contracts just a bit bigger than average market price, declare bankruptcy, then start again. You of course have sm…

I would reply to you but any comment I post gets flagged within less than one 1 sec...I can only imagine AI took over moderation here...and its failing miserably...

Re: EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision

#110
post #98

Whenever there is a discussion about EU there are very similar arguments against EU: - Too much birocracy - Too many taxes - Too much regulation that protects workers And I have to remind myself that people writing this are having a bias: they believe that in a system with few taxes (so less public health care, public eduction, less support for unemployment ...) they are on top, they are the ones with money, they are…

>And I have to remind myself that people writing this are having a bias: they believe that in a system with few taxes (so less public health care, public eduction, less support for unemployment ...) they are on top, they are the ones with money, they are the ones that win the game. What if your assumption here is incorrect and you are more likely projecting? What if there are other reasons people have? What people ar…

> But more important would be to ask yourself what happens as more and more people become parts of the "needs" group, who will be left to contribute to fund those with needs?

If that happens, you're doing it wrong. The point of helping people with social programs is to ensure (ideally) no one falls through the cracks and becomes an even bigger cost to society, so they can eventually contribute to society again instead of being a cost to it instead of getting trapped in poverty.

Of course, some people are not well enough they will ever be able to contribute to society, but providing them with the basics is less expensive to society than not doing so.

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