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Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by flohofwoe »

GaryBluto wrote: post #92
knollimar wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they not learn from windows aero? Or are they comprised of pure hubris that they thought they could make it work

Windows Aero did work, or at least the Windows 7 incarnation of it.

It was still ugly, but it did kinda work because it only affected the window chrome, and it could be set to opaque with an easy-to-find setting.

On macOS the checkbox for "Reduce transparency" is hidden away in the Accessibility settings panel which is the last place I'd look for configuring the desktop theme.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by chalmovsky »

foo12bar wrote: post #41

Sometimes who can't be bothered to make the text on their website not extremely tiny when viewing on mobile shouldn't be writing multi-page rants on the other people's UI.

I dont think you are really bothered by it either given you are discussing this on a website which has exactly the same behavior :)

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by Schiendelman »

jeroenhd wrote: post #53
aaomidi wrote: post #50

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This website is perfectly readable.

I disagree. https://litter.catbox.moe/3h3atpy3s8ny7ify.png is a lot less readable than https://litter.catbox.moe/tqims20z6biymm3y.png

1) Double tap. 2) Reader mode.

There are two excellent solutions built into your browser!

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by Schiendelman »

reddalo wrote: post #52

I'm just sad that Intel MacBooks will be stuck with Tahoe, which is essentialy a botched beta for Golden Gate. Bad customer experience for a company like Apple.

I would be far more sad at the battery life of any Intel Mac anymore! Having been on Apple Silicon for some five years now, I can't imagine going back.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by hbn »

This has been my favorite WWDC in years. Everything I've seen from the OS 27 releases has been such a breath of fresh air after years of bizarre design/usability decisions.

I hope Apple learned a lesson from what happened with Alan Dye and that Ternus doesn't let something like that happen again under his leadership.

Re: Sweet Jeebus, macOS 27 Golden Gate Removes the Dumb Icons from Menu Items

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Post by hbn »

michelb wrote: post #96
antran22 wrote: post #80

Good grief, hopefully in v28 Lemay will also throw away the absolute crap that is Liquid glass. Aesthetically it looks horrible, it slows my iPhone 13 — which never before lagged in all its life since iOS 15 – to a maddening crawl. Liquid glass should be taught in design school as an example of what not to do when you design UX. And also in business school as a case of how middle management can fudge up something tha…

Steve Lemay was a driving supporter of liquid glass, just like at least 2 other remaining designers at Apple. It's not going anywhere. Hopefully it will get toned down several times over though.

It is being toned down, at least in that they seem to be lightening up on that stupid lie that it helps you "focus on the content" because there were no toolbars. As if you're reading any text behind the buttons that are warping it and displaying another layer of text or an icon on top of it. And they ended up having to do an ugly fade at the top and bottom anyway cause you couldn't see the buttons on certain backgrounds.

Toolbars are back!

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