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OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by crystalPalace »

SwellJoe wrote: post #98
sireat wrote: post #96

As long as Codex remains so affordable and useful they do not have to slash prices, just keep Codex usable. I keep meaning to try Claude Code, but I can't seem to run out of limits on Codex on regular pro plan. Meanwhile all my friends on Claude Code are fighting the token limits every few hours. I even switched to using extra high for easy medium level script tasks as a test and besides taking longer there was not m…

I literally never hit usage limits in Claude Code on the $100 plan, and I feel like I'm using it as heavily as I can while still producing useful software. I could certainly make thinky machine go burr by giving it more busy work, but it wouldn't be good code or code that needs to exist. And, I even use `claude -p` pretty regularly for scripted stuff (automated security vulnerability searches), which I thought was no…

I agree, anecdotally I've only hit any usage limits on the $100 Max plan in the past couple of days using Fable 5. Evaluating old codebases eats a lot of tokens. But before Fable 5 I was running Opus 4.8 on max effort most of the day and rarely getting close to 50% usage. I rarely run dynamic workflows and sub-agents though.

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by ramraj07 »

SwellJoe wrote: post #98
sireat wrote: post #96

As long as Codex remains so affordable and useful they do not have to slash prices, just keep Codex usable. I keep meaning to try Claude Code, but I can't seem to run out of limits on Codex on regular pro plan. Meanwhile all my friends on Claude Code are fighting the token limits every few hours. I even switched to using extra high for easy medium level script tasks as a test and besides taking longer there was not m…

I literally never hit usage limits in Claude Code on the $100 plan, and I feel like I'm using it as heavily as I can while still producing useful software. I could certainly make thinky machine go burr by giving it more busy work, but it wouldn't be good code or code that needs to exist. And, I even use `claude -p` pretty regularly for scripted stuff (automated security vulnerability searches), which I thought was no…

I regularly hit usage limits on CC but thats when im in the zone, and do 5 things in parallel. Thats like 5 hours a week.

I also hit limits if I do something important, at which point I make it do a loop with significant subagent counts to just review and adjust the code extensively using a bunch of frameworks. Im perfectly happy with the CC limits of a max plan, it is never something that blocks me.and when it runs out im brain fried as well anyway so thats not an issue.

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by dgellow »

Hamuko wrote: post #37
anonym00se1 wrote: post #2

How does OpenAI plan to be profitable?

Is that even the plan, or is the plan to make a huge IPO while there's still hype and run off with the money?

Running off with money to be burned by your infra is a pretty terrible plan

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by [deleted] »

nl wrote: post #64
kouteiheika wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Here's a quick experiment I did yesterday. I got a new $20 Claude subscription to try the new Fable model. I gave it a single prompt, and it barely finished, using up my whole session quota (it was at ~95% when it finished) and 10% of my weekly quota. For comparison, with the Kimi Code $40 subscription I can pretty much constantly run two/three agents in parallel for the whole week, and I never run out of quota…

A word of caution on this. I've tried this too, and was disappointed. Kimi generally benchmarks at "a bit more intelligent than Sonnet Medium" levels[1] and I'd agree broadly with this assessment. If you have adapted your coding to rely on the agentic style that is doable in Opus 4.7+ then you will find Kimi disappointing. If you are using it in a more targeted way then it can work well. [1] https://artificialanalysi…

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Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by opennash »

mattjoyce wrote: post #28
WhitneyLand wrote: post #11

The frontier labs commonly trade spots at the top of the benchmarks with each new model release. The timing of these price cut discussions says to me OpenAI has no imminent release that will be edging out Mythos/Fable. If so the question becomes when can they do so, or is this possibly a turning point where Anthropic keeps the crown to themselves for the foreseeable future.

At the right price, these model don't need to be the best, good enough will do. I think we're fast approaching good enough for most users.

agreed, unlimited gpt5.5 fast is sufficient for 90% of my use cases. Tried Fable, nice to have but we don't really need it.

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by thewhitetulip »

jb_briant wrote: post #10

It's all speculation. Reality is Fable is x2 price increase against previous. GPT5.5 is x2 price increase against previous. And after the last week reset, codex is hungry for your sub allowance. Everybody can see that the massive raises are not matching the revenue, at all. It's a surprising headline. Yes it does make sense to cut the price to gain market share, but it also make sense to keep it at a sustainable leve…

Opus 4.8 cost 2x than 4.7 But to compensate for that Claude Code limits wete doubled

This was a week after deepseek slashed prices!

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

sireat wrote: post #96

As long as Codex remains so affordable and useful they do not have to slash prices, just keep Codex usable. I keep meaning to try Claude Code, but I can't seem to run out of limits on Codex on regular pro plan. Meanwhile all my friends on Claude Code are fighting the token limits every few hours. I even switched to using extra high for easy medium level script tasks as a test and besides taking longer there was not m…

Claude also just updated their privacy policy so they can shove a "please verify your identity" reply in your face after they flag your chat for "malicious activity". This is already common practice with Codex.

Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by patwalls »

sireat wrote: post #96

As long as Codex remains so affordable and useful they do not have to slash prices, just keep Codex usable. I keep meaning to try Claude Code, but I can't seem to run out of limits on Codex on regular pro plan. Meanwhile all my friends on Claude Code are fighting the token limits every few hours. I even switched to using extra high for easy medium level script tasks as a test and besides taking longer there was not m…

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Re: OpenAI mulls slashing prices as it competes with Anthropic for users

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Post by flowbarai »

mattjoyce wrote: post #28
WhitneyLand wrote: post #11

The frontier labs commonly trade spots at the top of the benchmarks with each new model release. The timing of these price cut discussions says to me OpenAI has no imminent release that will be edging out Mythos/Fable. If so the question becomes when can they do so, or is this possibly a turning point where Anthropic keeps the crown to themselves for the foreseeable future.

At the right price, these model don't need to be the best, good enough will do. I think we're fast approaching good enough for most users.

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