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Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by piva00 »

palmotea wrote: post #94
omnimus wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comment is just asking for evidence. I am curious too.

> The comment is just asking for evidence. I am curious too. Given "before 2006" includes the entire history of Soviet espionage , that's kinda like demanding evidence that the sun rises in the East. It's very obvious that Soviet espionage would have supported far-left groups in the West, so if you want evidence you should probably do your own research. Now the post-Soviet period in that range, 1991-2005, is a differ…

Russia != Soviet Union, even though Russia was the Soviet political-administrative center, contemporary Russia Federation is very different to the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by snowpid »

throw47931 wrote: post #100
4gotunameagain wrote: post #95

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Oh so the UN is a huge red flag now ? Have you seen before & after photos of Gaza ? Have you watched documentaries about the lives of Palestineans inside Israel ? If you have a shred of humanity left in you you should oppose zionism and the religious fundamentalist state that Israel has become with every fibre of your being.

If this was about humanity you would oppose suffering and violence on both sides and strive for a solution that involves all the humans in that region living in peace and harmony. Having extreme hatred for one side is exactly what perpetuates the cycle and doesn’t make you a good person.

Thanks!

I only would consider people worthy to discuss if they are agree on this. Most of the time people dont.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by wolvoleo »

spwa4 wrote: post #77
flohofwoe wrote: post #41

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Russia doesn't really differentiate between right and left when it comes to trying to destabilize Europe, they throw random shit against the wall and then focus on what sticks.

They used to though. Russian money was destined exclusively for the far-left before 2015 or so.

Yes that's where the phenomenon of tankies came from (at least the ones of modern times)

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by piva00 »

spwa4 wrote: post #79
scihuber wrote: post #64

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What does free will have to do with it? I know a lot of Ukrainians, and many of them are disappointed in the EU’s support. Let me say it again: I have friends who are fighting, and they often blame the EU for the lack of support—there aren’t enough people, you see. It’s a meat grinder; they need more equipment and automated systems! Just imagine how hard it must be for them right now, with Russian FPV-drones flying a…

Oh ... well the EU is not actually giving Ukraine much money at all. They are loaning money to them. The reward for Ukrainians' services and lives will be a century of paying back loans to the EU. Still better than being part of Russia, I guess, but. Why "free will" is critical, is because before Russia attacked, the Ukrainian government had the sense to not in a million years accept such a terrible deal from the EU.…

I think we need you to provide the numbers about what you consider "very unfair war debt" to the EU.

The 90B€ loan is just the latest mechanism for financial aid, there have been a lot of equipment transfers/donations from member-states, direct financial support for purchase of equipment, countries like Germany and Sweden even changed national laws to allow direct financial support (donations) to Ukraine.

The vast majority of the financial support for Ukraine has been donations, I'm not sure why you think otherwise so sharing the hard data you have could be a good start.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by wolvoleo »

robotomir wrote: post #42
kstenerud wrote: post #38

> Worryingly, European populists are espousing more assertively anti-Ukrainian views. Viktor Orban focused his unsuccessful election campaign to remain Hungarian prime minister on that theme. Meanwhile ECFR’s polling shows that voters of the far-right Freedom Party in Austria (FPÖ), the AfD in Germany, two far-right parties in Poland, and the governing and populist Progressive Bulgaria all see Ukraine as chiefly a “r…

This is an oversimplification, I would not consider Orban far right and PB are more populist left if anything. And it's not all Russia's fault, in Bulgaria the pro-Russian government came into power after five years of self-proclaimed pro-Western politicians attacking the institutions for their own political gain. Well, it misfired.

Well it's because of the overton window. In Holland when the fascist PVV joined the coalition it was a huge embarrassment for the other parties so they rebranded "extreme right" to "radical right" in all media so they didn't seem like sellouts. This happened literally the day they took office. Clearly a coordinated effort.

I'm sure the same applies to orban. People in power don't like to be called extreme so they rebrand to launder their ideology. It's still the same crap but now more hidden.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by andor »

satnhak wrote: post #93
rsynnott wrote: post #85

> Worryingly, European populists are espousing more assertively anti-Ukrainian views. Viktor Orban focused his unsuccessful election campaign to remain Hungarian prime minister on that theme. Meanwhile ECFR’s polling shows that voters of the far-right Freedom Party in Austria (FPÖ), the AfD in Germany, two far-right parties in Poland, and the governing and populist Progressive Bulgaria all see Ukraine as chiefly a “r…

"Russia is good, actually" is a hard sell to anyone who has been indoctrinated by a lifetime of Western Russophobia. Is I think what you meant.

Western influence isn't necessary. Eastern Europe has experienced the Soviet Union and doesn't want to go back.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by x3ro »

snowpid wrote: post #75
x3ro wrote: post #24

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I don't understand why this is being downvoted. It's not unreasonable to assume that increased militarization, coupled with increased nationalistic sentiment, could lead to inner-european conflicts escalating into wars. Sure, right now Russia is the enemy, but who knows what'll happen in ten years. And the military machinery is not just going to be scaled down immediately. If he's being downvoted for his "selling wea…

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> Comparing the holocaust with the invasion of Gaza stripe after 8. October

So, first of all, the comment you're referencing didn't make that statement, so you're making things up. This seems like it would stop any insightful conversation in its tracks before it can even begin.

That being said, in the eyes of many, Israel is very clearly committing genocide, and Israeli officials have resorted to eliminatory and genocidal rhetoric many times [1]. This is not a fringe opinion but a well-backed argument, and most certainly not a "huge red flag".

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent_and_incitement_in_the_G...

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by LightBug1 »

pjc50 wrote: post #22
brightball wrote: post #13

Not for this guy from Germany traveling across the US for the World Cup https://x.com/freddyla7?s=21

In the UK this feels like the least popular world cup in years. Even after Russia and Qatar, it feels like more of a FIFA corruption circus.

Yeah, fck that piece of sh ... this particular World Cup has about the same amount of value to me as the FIFA Peace Prize.

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by Arodex »

satnhak wrote: post #93
rsynnott wrote: post #85

> Worryingly, European populists are espousing more assertively anti-Ukrainian views. Viktor Orban focused his unsuccessful election campaign to remain Hungarian prime minister on that theme. Meanwhile ECFR’s polling shows that voters of the far-right Freedom Party in Austria (FPÖ), the AfD in Germany, two far-right parties in Poland, and the governing and populist Progressive Bulgaria all see Ukraine as chiefly a “r…

"Russia is good, actually" is a hard sell to anyone who has been indoctrinated by a lifetime of Western Russophobia. Is I think what you meant.

Oh yeah, the West is so russophobic that Russian elites all sent their kids there to study and bought million-dollar villas and penthouses there...

Re: European sentiments towards the US hit an all-time low

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Post by LightBug1 »

brightball wrote: post #69
pjc50 wrote: post #22

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In the UK this feels like the least popular world cup in years. Even after Russia and Qatar, it feels like more of a FIFA corruption circus.

That’s echoed on X. UK folks grumbling while tourist from other countries are having a blast.

Yes, I bet the Senegalese are loving it ...

Face it, the Trump World Cup is going to be a shit show ... appropriate for what they've done to the US ... turned it into, and I quote the orange dildo himself, a shit hole.

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