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Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by mrweasel »

nishanmiranda wrote: post #36
HerbManic wrote: post #28

Just remember that Google is essentially an advertising company and that they were always going to squeeze this opening closed as soon as they could get away with it. I do fear for a future were even Firefox ends up caving in. Ladybird browser might be our only hope until something legal comes along to block functionality.

Firefox haven't caved in so far. Why do u think it might in future?

Because Mozilla, at least from the outside appears to have been horribly mismanaged for the past 20-25 years and only survived because the ad money kept rolling in.

I'm not knocking Mozilla for taking money from Google, it was a smart move. Most users would use Google anyway, so Mozilla pocketing billions by making users preferred search engine the default didn't really hurt anyone. Some of that money should however have gone into a trust or some type of investment so that funding for browser development would be safe if the ad money ever dried up.

Maybe someone at Mozilla knows something I don't, but there doesn't seem to be much planning for the future.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by maxloh »

dotcoma wrote: post #4

Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)

Actually, I opted in for tracking. Knowing my interests, Google suggests good articles on their Android app feed.

Also, there are a few parts of Firefox that still look ancient, like the bookmarks and history managers, as well as the PDF viewer, where the buttons are too small to click easily. Unfortunately, those are unusable for a Gen Zer.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by RachelF »

ano-ther wrote: post #66
dotcoma wrote: post #4

Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)

Some pages do not work in Firefox, so I keep a copy of Chrome around. It’s a bit like with Internet Explorer which back in its day was also needed for some stubborn sites.

Me too. Many government or banking sites only work properly on Chrome. Anything with Docusign is Chrome-only.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by somat »

derideor wrote: post #97

So, what's next? Will Chrome ship with hard coded DNS, so that DNS based adblockers will stop working as well? Where (and when) does my rights what to display on my devices end?

Ship has already sailed, it's called DoH. Please note, that it is to make your DNS safer and has absolutely nothing to do with removing your ability to resolve DNS in whatever way you want to(cough adblock cough).

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by anonymousiam »

Brybry wrote: post #82
palmotea wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Firefox haven't caved in so far. Why do u think it might in future? Because pretty much all their revenue comes from Google.

I think Google will try to annoy Firefox users into using Chrome instead via things like needless captchas.

All the more reason to keep using Firefox.

Donate if you can!

https://www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by dijit »

dotcoma wrote: post #4

Why are people on HN still using Chrome? (or Edge, or Opera…)

Since it underpins so much of the modern browser ecosystem it becomes a primary target for webapps to work.

As such, if you want to be sure a website will work you use chrome.

Since chrome has such a market share, developers feel justified testing primarily for chrome.

Self-fulfilling cycle.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by anonymousiam »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #72
totetsu wrote: post #38

uBo is the only reason I find browsing the web at all tolerable anymore. As a test I turned it off to view this article and almost crashed my browser with a dozen auto play video ads This would mean I would find the energy to get over anything that is holding me on chrome, like saved passwords etc.

Agree. The web is literally unusable without uBlock Origin. It should be a standard browser feature at this point, like popup blockers.

In addition to uBlock Origin, I also have a few piholes (two locations), and I use NoScript as well. It's nice to have multiple layers of defense.

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by pseudalopex »

Stevvo wrote: post #75

uBlock Origin Lite gives an identical browsing experience, ad-free. What is all the fuss about?

Your comment was redundant.[1] And contradicted in the uBlock Origin Lite FAQ.[2] And in the article.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48472424

[2] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by pndy »

userbinator wrote: post #6
rwmj wrote: post #5

Surprised they still have this page on their site: > https://about.google/company-info/philosophy/ > 1. Focus on the user and all else will follow. > 6. You can make money without doing evil.

Archive it before they memoryhole it.

Yeah I'd expect someone here will note it and page will get a "deserved" update

Re: Chrome is looking to permanently drop MV2 extension

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Post by maxloh »

Krssst wrote: post #49
TiredOfLife wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Firefox will also disable V2 sooner or later. Source? > Firefox won't, because mozilla banned that extension from store. It's unbanned; the author chose to not put it back. https://www.ghacks.net/2024/10/01/mozillas-massive-lapse-in-...

Yeah, pissing off the ecosystem is a great way to drive users to your competitors. Requiring users to manually install and update a popular extension is a subpar experience.

It seems they spent so much of their budget on the CEO's salary that they couldn't afford an extension review team.

Quoting open-paren comment (2024):

> As far as I can tell, there are maybe two reviewers that are based in Europe (Romania?). The turn around time is long when I am in the US, and it has been rife with this same kind of "simple mistake" that takes 2 weeks to resolve.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41710183

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