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Re: KDE at 30

#101
Just adding my respect for the team behind KDE. I left KDE for more resource friendly desktops and window managers around the KDE 4 transition. Then in the last couple of years came back. It's definitely the most feature complete and sane option for Linux desktops.

When they transition to Wayland I'll probably have to move away again as my hardware won't support it but I'll still likely use dolphin as it's a better file manager than all the others.

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#102
post #50

It feels to me that a lot of the bigger ideas in KDE fell away over the years. In the 2000s I would log in every morning, open a KWord doc in one Konqueror tab, a KSpread sheet in another, and some browser tabs alongside them, then I'd launch Kate and open some files over SSH or FTP and get to work. It felt like someone had really embraced OO and applied it to every part of the desktop, and I assume something like KP…

I feel the same. A lot of big projects fell by way side over time for various reasons. Goes with the nature of experiments, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. k3b - died with the cd-rom calligra office - creation of LibreOffice stole the thunder konqueror - maintaining a secure browser that isn't a fork of chrome is a tall ask these days amarok / kmail - rewrite lost features, introduced bugs, and many existing a…

> maintaining a secure browser that isn't a fork of chrome is a tall ask these days

> maintaining a secure browser that isn't a fork of konqueror is a tall ask these days

FTFY

Re: KDE at 30

#103
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are someone that mostly likes the Windows 7/10 experience, KDE out of the box is basically that. It's more customizable. It's (IMO) less clunky and less burdened by legacy components. But it really just feels like windows used to feel like. But also just fast and low memory. You can run KDE on ancient hardware. If you have something like 512MB of ram, you can do KDE just fine.

>If you have something like 512MB of ram, you can do KDE just fine The past is a foreign land. Minimum memory requirement for Windows 95 was something like 4MB. I ran OS/2 on 8MB of memory (with a Cyrix 40Mhz 486 clone).

At least part of this is going to be the resolutions at play. In windows 95 era you were dealing with 640x480 resolutions. Maybe 1024x768. Modern displays are doing a lot more than that. 1920x1080 at a minimum.

Beyond that, in windows 95 in the extreme you could be looking at only 16 colors. 256 colors was also not uncommon. 16bit colors became common in the windows 98 era.

Re: KDE at 30

#104

One of the most impressive and useful free software projects. My first experience was being totally confused by KDE 1 during my first attempts to use Linux, and I'm writing this from my KDE desktop. Other than the really bad KDE 4 release, the project has consistently been great for me. I've submitted a few smaller patches over the years and that experience was also low friction for a project of this size. KDE is hig…

Konsole and Spectacle deserve a shoutout as well. Konsole for its flexibility and feature set while remaining really performant, and Snapshot for being just so darn handy for both screenshots and screen captures.

Konsole is so good I forget about it, it's just my usual terminal. Once they added the split feature, it became pretty damn near perfect.

Re: KDE at 30

#105
post #50

It feels to me that a lot of the bigger ideas in KDE fell away over the years. In the 2000s I would log in every morning, open a KWord doc in one Konqueror tab, a KSpread sheet in another, and some browser tabs alongside them, then I'd launch Kate and open some files over SSH or FTP and get to work. It felt like someone had really embraced OO and applied it to every part of the desktop, and I assume something like KP…

KDE4 killed too much momentum; many promising features and apps disappeared for whatever reason or slowly faded out into irrelevance. Stuff like KIOSlaves is still around, but never really evolved beyond what it was 20 years ago.

Well, Trinity Desktop is alive and kicking and is a fork of the 3.5.12 series. over 16 years of steady releases now.

Re: KDE at 30

#106
post #45

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They aren't dropping X11, they are only dropping it in their new login manager. Change the login manager and it will continue to work fine for now.

They do plan to remove X11 from Plasma Desktop as well: https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-f...

I guess that this may be the day when I give up on the Linux desktop :/. I really love KDE, but I'm not ready to transition to wayland.

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#107

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I lament the times when open source projects were open source software projects instead of political platforms for people who arrogantly think that their private political opinion is important enough to overshadow the project they participate in. This will undoubtedly create tensions and will lead to fewer donations, thus having a negative impact on KDE.

Since when was someone's gender or sexuality a "political opinion"?

Since antiquity.

Re: KDE at 30

#108

A bit tangential, but can you recommend any GUI applications for monitoring the system? The KDE's defualt system monitor is a bit heavy and does not provide much insights. I switched to Linux some time ago as my main system, but I miss a tool such as System Informer [1]. [1] https://www.systeminformer.com/

Tux Manager

https://github.com/benapetr/TuxManager

It's fairly new but is under active development. I haven't had a chance to try it out myself yet.

Re: KDE at 30

#109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

KDE4 killed too much momentum; many promising features and apps disappeared for whatever reason or slowly faded out into irrelevance. Stuff like KIOSlaves is still around, but never really evolved beyond what it was 20 years ago.

Well, Trinity Desktop is alive and kicking and is a fork of the 3.5.12 series. over 16 years of steady releases now.

Isn't Trinity just maintenance and small improvements of KDE3? I don't remember to have heard about any revolutionary changes, or even just significant evolutionary improvements.

Re: KDE at 30

#110
I use KDE and really have no complaints, but I'm a bit surprised it's still being actively developed (or is it really?). All the C++ programmers I've known have moved on to other languages. I'm surprised there is a large enough group of people willing to write old OO code in their spare time (and this is a weird mix of QT/KDE, so even more icky boiler plate than usual)
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