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Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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I just don’t understand why a non-profit was allowed to do this. Does this not set a precedent that non-profit doesn’t actually mean anything? You can just use a favorable structure until it’s time to enrich yourself.

Nonprofit doesn't mean anything, since people can just route the profits into salaries. It's just another legacy regulation that may have once once had a societally-constructive purpose that wealthy people just use as one of the array of financial tools to help implement their latest scams. IMO, here are no legitimate nonprofits. Western countries have been utterly strangled by nonprofits. Governments fund them with…

One reform I would make would be to limit tax breaks to actual charitable activity within an organization, instead of a blanket tax break to the whole organization. For example if a Church/Hospital runs a soup kitchen and homeless shelter, those resources should be tax free, but maybe the rest of their activities shouldn't be by default.

Another reform I would make would be around independent governance and removing donor control of charities to reduce the number of sham Rich Guy foundations.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If his entire personal diary got exposed and that's the worst that's in it, good for him.

Worse? There is nothing wrong with wanting 1B. Anybody who said they wouldn't want it is lying.

Every billionaire is a policy failure. It's not a question of equity, the issue is that no one human should be that powerful. It's very obvious that its leading to the US's rather quick and colorful decline. A small cohort of very powerful people are moving elections and policy to enrich themselves, everyone else be damned.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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I remember when computer magazines were aimed at programmers and had code listings in them. Then there seemed to come a time when all they talked about was the IBM vs. Microsoft lawsuit. From then on they must have felt that they had discovered a formula, because all they ever yapped about after was insider baseball of computer companies. I find this sort of corp. vs. corp. coverage boring, sort of like techie realit…

I dunno man, there are two "tech" industry worlds and the one you and I -- hacker types -- think of as "tech" is not what the rest of the world means. They mean the other one, which has almost nothing to do with the actual technology and instead everything to do with the absolutely apeshit amount of money, power, influence and intrigue that the technology enabled. This was a very large apeshit $$ amount back in IBM v…

This happened when business types realized technology could be enormously profitable (~PC era).

Then inevitably, tech news turned into business news.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If his entire personal diary got exposed and that's the worst that's in it, good for him.

What about stealing 12 million books of copyrighted human culture, at massive scale, and then enclosing the value created inside proprietary, investor-backed systems? Something wrong with that? What happens if you go tomorrow, downtown San Francisco, and leave a bookstore with one book without paying? "Behind every great fortune there is a crime" - Honoré de Balzac

Even though the founders of OpenAI are not exactly someone you'd root for, comparisons to theft are silly.

By that token it would be illegal to go into a library, read a book, and actually remember what was in it. Except in this case the reader is a robot.

LLMs are such a fundamentally different thing that existing laws don't really make sense. Wait! Put the pitchfork down! I know, I know, stealing is stealing, and OpenAI founders are slimy. But what about derivative works? Why is a human making a hip-hop track allowed to sample, and a robot is not? Again, LLMs are such a fundamentally different thing that existing laws don't really make sense.

It's actually surprising in retrospect that nobody did this sooner. Even back in the 80s books about computers would gush about how a computer has enough memory to store an entire library's worth of books. It's just that someone finally figured out how to put an index on it.

Where I agree: given that this is basically the sum of all humanity's knowledge, the company should have been a non-profit. It was a non-profit. And then greed won.

Re: Greg Brockman interview [video]

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post #75

I just don’t understand why a non-profit was allowed to do this. Does this not set a precedent that non-profit doesn’t actually mean anything? You can just use a favorable structure until it’s time to enrich yourself.

Non profits have always been able to have for profit subsidiaries, owned by the non profit.
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