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Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
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Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#102I’m working in education and will change to other vendors in the near future. That means all my students will do so as well. Windows cannot provide feature parity for workloads that require cross compiling, AMD could at least support RHEL like the old days.
Have you tried docker or WSL2. Modern virtualization should make it possible to seamlessly run Linux while in Windows.
I have, and compared to just running Linux it's not very good. For starters, the shared filesystem is incredibly slow, there is no hardware passthrough support out of the box (even for USB), the graphics support is incomplete and there's lots of non-standard defaults like custom kernel images and a custom init. That's on top of all the bugs and horrible error reporting.
It still beats Windows, but given the choice, I'd much rather just use Linux properly and have all of this just work than waste my time fiddling with WSL/WSL2.
Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with your point (that AMD does a lot more harm than what they are indignant about) but not the way you go there. If emotional abusive behavior is not "physical harm" because it's just emotions, then financial abusive behavior is not "physical harm" either because it's just numbers. When you consider what incredible harm being emotionally unwell can lead to, I don't think it deserves to be dismissed. AMD is cl…
AMD is not a person. It has no emotions. Any perceived emotional harm by humans is them projecting themselves onto the AMD entity. Whereas AMDs actions here cause real harm to individuals.
AMD and any other corpo is made of people, who do have emotions. Abuse towards these people impacts corp operations. This is an entity protecting itself from damage that it feels is not worth the benefit the offering would bring.
And I question your assertion of real harm to individuals, by not offering free support, being worse than receiving verbal abuse.
Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#104Well Gowin here I come I guess
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
nobody should support MicroSlop
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AMD dropped support for Linux on the free plan, not the other way around. Nor is this a Linux problem, because they still allow paid users to run the software on Linux.
As far as what's evident from the support thread goes, this is the closest to a justification given:
> AMD expectation is that the BASIC tier licensing level is used for simple, entry‑level needs. While more advanced, production-based workflows are aligned with paid tiers.
Looks like AMD equates Linux to professional use and Windows to simple, entry-level needs :)
Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#106How is it sustainable for AMD to maintain their software on Linux for free? Would you maintain your own Linux software (and its distros) for $0? I see no problem with monetizing Linux users. If I am monetizing Windows and macOS users, there should be no exceptions towards Linux especially as Linux support is always ill defined (there are hundreds of distros to support and test.)
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#108The official replies are addressing questions that nobody has asked. The main issue is why Linux support is being removed from the Basic tier while Windows is still allowed. To grow the ecosystem, AMD needs more people working on their hardware. Restricting Linux will only alienates students, hobbyists, and devs who want to adopt AMD tech. - From long term AMD user
The official replies started off by addressing ... the "unacceptable abusive behavior towards AMD". The most important thing here is obviously to ask people not to use such hurtful words as "disgraceful" towards poor little AMD... Answering the actual question seems not a high priority
Seems we have an awful lot of snowflakes in the corporate tech world the last couple years. Can’t take criticism, can’t handle basic questioning of their operation …
Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#109Software distribution for Linux can be hard. Many distros, different conventions, no FHS is long forgotten, ...
However, Xilinx Vivado and Vitis are so obtusely distributed, making it incredibly hard to package them well.
Three random issues I remember:
1. We had a lot of trouble with Vivado projects randomly breaking. The culprit: German localization combined with automatic clock frequency derivation. Depending on which logic blocks where wired up how, you would get i.e. 99.999 MHz instead of 100 MHz. Apparently, Vivado uses a localized printf (or equivalent) to generate TCL scripts. In German localization, the decimal is a comma, which is interpreted as additional argument in the TCL scripts. 2. For simulation, scripts scripts are copied from a template folder to the user folder, and subsequently adjusted. They are copied in archive mode. If the template is read-only to the current user, so is the new copy, thus failing the subsequent adjustment. 3. If you run the installer with --help as argument, it pops up an X window displaying the help. In general, IIRC, we need to run a headless X just to run the installer in CLI/batch mode.
From a Linux distro maintainer perspective, the packaging is horrible. In particular separation of base installation, configuration, and add-ons is non-existent. Large amount of vendored dependencies, only then to depend on the most minute little packages that Ubuntu supposedly ships.
Setting up a reliable, reproducible CI/CD environment based on Vivado is a large headache.
That all goes to say: if anything, AMD/Xilinx should be paying its customers to deal with this. Unless there is a major improvement in the software distribution practices for Linux, I could not justify to my employer paying money for this experience.
On the other hand, if they commercialize on Linux support, there is soooo much that they can improve by a lot, who knows. Hope dies last and all.
Re: Why is Vivado 2026.1 dropping Linux support for free tier?
#110As a long time Altera user, one of the biggest things that made me want to jump the fence to Xilinx was the MUCH stronger community and hobbyist uptake. Xilinx benefitted from a ton of people out there educating others on their behalf.
Trying to shrink that community seems like a pretty obvious error. The closest thing the Altera world ever had were the old Altera user forums, which were a gold-mine. Intel shut them down immediately on acquisition. I guess it's AMD's turn.