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The IBM-ification of Google?

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Re: The IBM-ification of Google?

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Post by lokar »

manquer wrote: post #96
verst wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who is the best? Just curious.

Microsoft. It more than compensated for Azure not being the best product . They are incredibly more responsive, you have multiple points of contacts and escalation chain of actual humans you can meet they will even come to your customer call or connect with their rep already working with the mutual customer and so on. AWS has the best tech and but not as good as Microsoft service wise, they certainly improved a lot l…

My company also used all 3 (at a very large scale / spends). MS was nice, but useless / incompetent technically. Anything non-trivial took forever to get a straight answer or resolve. We rarely got to speak directly to anyone with real expertise.

AWS, we could speak directly to Sr engineers on the relevant team. Full transparency, highly responsive. They were clearly trying to understand our issues and suggest change for both us and themselves.

Google was mostly useless. There was one team I got to talk directly to, who were great. But that was the exception.

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Post by rockinghigh »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #25
erwincoumans wrote: post #15

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Gemini is pretty good.

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're literally the first person I've ever heard say that. Even people who like LLMs seem to think that GPT and Claude are the good ones, with Gemini being B tier at best.

Gemini tends to be faster and the Flash and Flash Lite models outperform ChatGPT's equivalent models.

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Post by fragmede »

cyberax wrote: post #50
fragmede wrote: post #31

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Waymo's pretty good.

That's not a Google product per-se, and it's also not new.

Waymo was originally called the Google self-driving car. If it's only come to your city this year, I'd say that's pretty new. If it's not in your city yet, it's so new it's not even there!

Re: The IBM-ification of Google?

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Post by xbar »

raggi wrote: post #38

> Look at the Railway GCP account ban situation. A literally billion dollar startup running on Google Cloud and Google just randomly snaps their fingers and deletes their account. Zero warning. No phone number to call. No account rep. Poof. Gone. It is actual insanity to me. A billion dollar customer gets the exact same automated middle finger as a low effort spam bot. Your B2B business is completely cooked if that i…

Victim-blaming is not appropriate here.

Google did not "likely" screw up.

To be sure, however, this is a keen lesson for every CTO.

Re: The IBM-ification of Google?

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Post by linkregister »

trollbridge wrote: post #90
ismepornnahi wrote: post #36

Why's this poorly written piece on top of HN?

I rather enjoyed it. I also enjoyed reading something that did not give me the immediate impression it was AI generated.

"Write a snarky, cynical opinion piece about Google in the style of Lewis Black."

The Opus 4.7 output was remarkably similar to the content in this blog.

Re: The IBM-ification of Google?

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Post by cafkafk »

Recommending Hetzner as an alternative here is a mistake. It just exposes you to a different problem.

There is a reason for the term "Hetznered" existing. Hetzner can suddenly and permanently terminates your account. They do this without warning or explanation. When it happens, you lose access to all your servers and your backups.

If you search HN, you will find plenty of examples. People lose everything within 24 hours and have no recourse.

Hetzner is amazing for pricing. But the only safe way to use them is if your infrastructure is cloud agnostic. If you are not locked in and can move between providers quickly, it is a very cost effective place to run stateless services like DNS.

Re: The IBM-ification of Google?

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Post by ajross »

somesortofthing wrote: post #2

Not the article's main point but I've never liked the "google killing products" complaints. People always talk about how big companies fail because they're unwilling to take risks and just recommit to their areas of strength, but this is what risk-taking looks like - you blast out products, see what sticks, and kill what doesn't. People who think it's a quality product won't be wary of whether it'll get killed - the…

> Not the article's main point but I've never liked the "google killing products" complaints

Exactly. I mean, you can argue forever about the stuff that got killed. But you know what didn't get killed? All the stuff they're turning into $4.6T of market cap.

In particular, they didn't kill AI. They're the only pre-AI tech giant with a successful frontier LLM, everyone else failed (Meta) or missed the boat (Apple, Microsoft[1]). They're the only tech giant[2] to produce working in-house datacenter AI hardware.

Making a lot of bets means that you make a lot of bad bets too. But Google has made a lot of good bets.

[1] Though MS got near-exclusive access to OpenAI via a very expensive late investment, which sorta counts.

[2] NVIDIA is giant now, they certainly weren't when these bets were being placed.

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