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Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by rglover »

basisword wrote: post #83
carlosjobim wrote: post #78

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That excludes all fans who don't live in big cities. A lot of people travel just to go to shows.

Not really. In the past you could buy tickets in tonnes of places. Ticketmaster had physical 'stores' all over and most of the big music retailers also sold tickets. Admittedly these aren't widespread anymore which poses a problem. It's also a terrible solution because it excludes people with jobs.

There used to be a Ticketmaster counter at the grocery store. You could buy groceries for the week and pick up tickets for a show at the same time.

It was a far more sane (and exciting) experience.

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Post by criddell »

something765478 wrote: post #46
joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

I disagree; Spotify is good at serving up sound, so it makes sense for them to also serve audiobooks and podcasts; just like it makes sense for video streaming services to have both movies and tv shows. Similarly for concerts; people who listen to a lot of music are probably interested in going to see their favorite band live. Mind you, I definitely have complaints about the app (like notifications interrupting music…

> I also understand why they want to expand

I'd have fewer complaints if I could hide the sections I'm not interested in (new releases, audiobooks, podcasts, concerts, etc...).

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Post by cheeze »

redoxate wrote: post #97
aczerepinski wrote: post #88

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The only real solutions to scalping are to impact supply/demand by increasing supply (extra show in each city) or lower demand (raise prices). As a jazz fan I don’t know much about shows that sell out and attract scalpers, but I’m curious why the artists don’t double prices to cut out middlemen.

They would to multiple the prices multiple times to even discourage the middlemen, gentrifying at the same time the fan base, which is sad

It is, but it still feels better that the money goes toward the artist than it does to go to a middleman.

Reality is there is no good solution IMO, no matter what you do, someone is missing out. Just the reality of supply vs demand.

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Post by mtrovo »

browningstreet wrote: post #71

I’ve almost entirely given up on managing music. Just done with it. I listen to soma.fm and radioparadise.com .. I read one music magazine and listen to some of the music recommendations from there, but following any of it, over time, is a lost cause for me. I was just remarking to someone how music apps are the least interesting, personal, and innovative of all the things I live with. Examples: we still can’t manage…

Youtube Music is quite good for what you're describing.

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Post by jjulius »

jmuguy wrote: post #22
joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

Another reason to use Bandcamp and just buy music. Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc. I dunno, Spotify certainly isn't going to get better at this point. Best we can hope is that they die and something better takes their place.

>Of course then you've gotta setup a whole stack to store it, make it available to your devices, etc etc.

Uhh, no you don't? Nearly all of my Bandcamp purchases, except the literal one or two physical-only purchases that didn't also come with a digital copy, are all available to stream to my heart's content via the Bandcamp app and their website.

I mean, I also download it all because I DJ, but yeah... having access to it whenever I want is entirely effortless and doesn't require anything beyond Bandcamp itself.

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Post by criddell »

ZeWaka wrote: post #14
317070 wrote: post #9

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Named tickets, like airplane seats? Sorry, I only thought about this for 5 seconds, but there are markets where scalping doesn't cause issues. We could look at those.

Still have the issue of transferring tickets to friends or such if you can't make it. Axios and some providers handle this.

Handle it the same way airlines do. If you think you might not be able to go, then pay extra for a refundable ticket.

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Post by dbbk »

joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

I'm sorry what? Artists do not make money on streaming, they make it in touring. Spotify integrating concerts into the same product surface is the MOST logical thing they could do.

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by dbbk »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #44
paxys wrote: post #37

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There are many solutions. For example - allow ticket resale only through the official platform and cap it at the original sale price. Another approach - check IDs at the door and only let the original ticket purchaser through. The real problem is that scalping is insanely profitable for Ticketmaster & co. They take a cut of the original sale and every subsequent transfer, most of them at highly inflated prices, from…

I have some tickets to big gigs coming up and they cannot be resold. On Ticketmaster.

Because it's up to the event promoter if they want to enable it

Re: Spotify will start reserving concert tickets for fans

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Post by bartread »

joshl32532 wrote: post #10

This is the problem with public listed companies that need to "maximize shareholder values" and look for infinite growth. I just want Spotify for music (playlist, recommendation, lossless audio). I don't need their podcast, audiobook, ChatGPT, concert tickets etc. This just makes their app bloated for features I will never use.

Hmm, see I don’t agree. I use Spotify extensively for music, but also for podcasts and audiobooks. Great for a long car journey, or background listening whilst doing DIY.

I have plenty of frustrations with the app, but not with the core offer as a delivery mechanism for various types of audio entertainment and information.

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