First they verify whether a picture came from OpenAI, then they'll include subscriber data and geolocation. Well, they'll finally find out that no one wants to look at AI generated pictures or text. Once they do that, the tool will fail for the public and only work for the government.
OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
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Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#102This is just performative nonsense. As someone that creates things with tools with different media I would just hard avoid this tool that adds... arbitrary metadata not of my choosing. Should I seriously make a texture for a videogame with this weird DRM glorp in it? How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
Also you: well, games go through some kind of distribution, which has plenty of telemetry and metadata. Whether it is App Store with notarization, or Steam or Itch who collect analytics and know a lot about you, or your ISP if you self host your eclectic WebGL game from home. Posting on an iPhone or Android phone, to hacker News which has your email address, on your cell network which has IPv6 globally unique addresses...
"But my choosing!" You'll say. It is extremely performative of you to say, "everything that would make me 200% wrong isn't valid."
I don't know. I really hate these vibes-driven reactions to (checks notes) content attribution. Every accusation is a confession in this frame of mind. How do you not see that?
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
So 999 people that are just making an image need to be DRM'ed so that you might catch the 1 person making "realistic but deceptive" images... like this is some kind of special case of ... internet images.
This isn't DRM right? This is metadata attached to the image that makes it clear it was synthetically generated. The public has a huge incentive to know when images are AI generated and the harm to legitimate users seems pretty small: aka someone might complain online that you use AI
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#104This is just performative nonsense. As someone that creates things with tools with different media I would just hard avoid this tool that adds... arbitrary metadata not of my choosing. Should I seriously make a texture for a videogame with this weird DRM glorp in it? How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
Just because something isn't perfect doesn't mean it's not useful. I've already seen posts online that were able to be proven as falsified because someone ran the images through Google for SynthID checks. > How old is photoshop and why is it exempt? For one, it's not developed by Google or OpenAI. The barrier to entry to making realistic but deceptive images with Photoshop is far higher than with AI, and there are al…
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#105This is just performative nonsense. As someone that creates things with tools with different media I would just hard avoid this tool that adds... arbitrary metadata not of my choosing. Should I seriously make a texture for a videogame with this weird DRM glorp in it? How old is photoshop and why is it exempt?
You: "performative nonsense! Arbitrary metadata not of my choosing!" Also you: well, games go through some kind of distribution, which has plenty of telemetry and metadata. Whether it is App Store with notarization, or Steam or Itch who collect analytics and know a lot about you, or your ISP if you self host your eclectic WebGL game from home. Posting on an iPhone or Android phone, to hacker News which has your email…
I have an IP address so therefore this is all fine?
"Every accusation is a confession" also seems like an insinuation that I have something to hide but you have "nothing to hide, nothing to fear"ie the very generic privacy right fallacy.
As for "vibes driven"... this whole technical "fix" is a result of the reactionary "vibe" of the ai moral panic, your "notes" don't seem to be providing any perspective there?
Re: OpenAI Adopts Google's SynthID Watermark for AI Images with Verification Tool
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Political deepfakes on the mind here more than weird stuff.
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn't lose any voters, ok? It's, like, incredible." — Donald Trump So what does a deepfake matter?
A national news story in the US tonight, Lyft driver caught faking photos of his messy car. Not the most intelligent fraudster as he left the Gemini logo on the corner of the image.
Providing these four examples in good faith :) also generally I _dislike_ DRM
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
It helps significantly in the current moment. A lot of people are lazy and are getting caught quickly by SynthID. Eventually it won’t matter when image generation is cheap. But few self-host today and few are willing to pay unsubsidized prices, so the vast majority are using the Gemini, OpenAI, and Midjourney. If all 3 adopted SynthID, only a small fraction would use something else.
These systems should be removed. This is antithetical to freedom and privacy. There should be no way for anyone to track down who posted a political meme, anti-religious message, or any other legally protected speech. This will come back to bite us in the ass if we keep building it. Soon every image or communication we make will be watermarked if we continue to let this shit seep into the commons. Everything from you…
> Social media platforms can identify, ban, and report abusers.
& do but Americans nonetheless argue with troll farms[1] every day & it hurts us
[1] 2013-2023, just one known company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not going to mince words - what you're saying is dangerous and harmful. > to be clear can not track you in any way All they have to do is encode enough entropy for a database unique identifier. Systems like this have been used to do it for audio: https://github.com/swesterfeld/audiowmark SynthID payloads work the same way, and the paper discusses encoding a "user identifier": https://arxiv.org/html/2510.09263v1#S…
You are not required to use AI generation for images. You can go on living your life without it. I believe in you.
Would not have been on my bingo card.