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#101

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Maybe Google will finally launch a working coding agent

Gemini CLI works. It's not the favorite, but it's definitely "working."

It's constantly overloaded and shits the bed. Gemini is so awful, it feels like a GPT-3.5 era model that fails to make basic tool calls.

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#102

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That's so 2025 according to Sam Altman though.

ASI now. You'd think contrasted with AGI it would be Artificial Specialized Intelligence, but it's Artificial Super Intelligence. Since AGI already happened and didn't mean anything, the next step is a super AI.

I still want the normal definition of AGI... Which my understand is: no more re-training, real time memory and re-learning. The fact they cannot fit a lot of context, or step into "we no longer need to train it" territory tells me, they're farther than they keep pretending they're close to.

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#104

Watching these bland presentations with choreographed delivery and reading off a prompt off-screen (I'm not completely sure they're doing this, but it looks like it) makes me appreciate Steve Jobs presentations from the past so much more. Steve really had product presentations down. I wish people at least tried to copy him.

It helped that he actually used and believed in the products he was pitching.

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#105
post #25

Interesting that the 3.5 Flash launches before 3.5 Pro. Historically it's been the reverse for Gemini since Flash is distilled from Pro? Are they just training it a bit longer until it tops benchmarks?

flash beating the pro it was distilled from is suspicious, not surprising.distillation usually loses you something. if the smaller model is winning on agentic evals, the more likely read is the evals weren't measuring agent quality in the first place. that's the bigger problem for builders, not which model to pick.

> flash beating the pro it was distilled from is suspicious

Is it? I thought Flash 3.5 was beating 3.1 Pro.

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#106

It's discouraging to see Google price Gemini 3.5 Flash at 3x the cost of Gemini 3 Flash. I would think that most people that deployed this model in production would have used it for low latency tasks, classification/categorization, customer support or basic RAG-/RAG-style chatbots. Performance on coding benchmarks is nice and all, but where is the "intelligence too cheap to measure"? This new cost point is quite proh…

Expect all models to increase in price 3x with new releases. They're easing us into the margins they're targeting. Flash 3 wasnt appropriately priced, it was priced to get you used to a certain level of spending, then they'll crank it up and get you used to the next level of spending.

I am aware that it was likely subsidized or at least did not have appropriate margins. But over time, that same capability should become profitable if parameter efficiency and chips improve. For many customer facing use cases outside of coding assistants, optimizing for speed, basic logic/maths and conversational texts matters much more than being able to use 40 tools simultaneously. I would have hoped that Google would recognize this and keep a dual line up, where Pro and Flash are clearly intended for different market segments. But it seems, it's all in on coding assistants and screw the other use cases..

Now, we might need to change to DeepSeek 4 Flash if Google deprecates 3 Flash.

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#107
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can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

I can't think of a way to mock all the ai hype more than what they actually just talk about. "Next, our hacker news AI agent reads and comments for you based on your commenting history, no need to think or do anything at all - we'll automate your time wasting and make better, more relevant jokes than you & your karma score will increase exponentially."

so much value unlocked and time saved!

Re: Google I/O

#108
post #61

can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

While I get your point, this kind of gives me "Old man yelling at cloud" vibes. Yes, all the AI talk and bullshit bingo became quite annoying at this point, and I also can't wait for it to settle. But AI is here, and it's here to stay. Wether we like it or not. It's like what dotcom was for the internet back then. We'll get through this eventually - with a bubble bursting here and there - but making fun of it with overtuned phrases like "Everything will be connected to the internet in the future, even your fridge, car and toothbrush!" won't age too well I am afraid.

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#109
post #75

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Judging by global RAM, storage, and compute hardware demand, yes there is.

Yeah I mean Big Tech are using a lot of it because they're training models and shoving AI into everything. But if they weren't forcing it upon people, would that same demand be there?

I lean AI-skeptic, but I don’t think the majority of the around 1 billion weekly active ChatGPT users are being forced to use it.

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#110
post #84

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the question is whether they will talk about anything apart from AI lol

That was the joke.

It's two slightly different jokes right? The parent comment joke is essentially stating "they are definitely going to talk about AI a lot" and the second joke is stating "they are not going to talk about anything besides AI", which are similar but technically different.
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