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Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by fzeroracer »

dionidium wrote: post #97
tptacek wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can speak at length to the tenure of Kim Foxx, Chicago's former high-profile progressive prosecutor. I know some of the issues rhyme with Boudin's term, but San Franciscans can tell his story better than I can. So, first, no, I feel like I'm saying the opposite of "they're dumb". I don't think either Foxx or Boudin are dumb. I think they're both interesting people with interesting and valuable views. When I say "ba…

We almost certainly have opposing ideological views, but something I said a lot during this era (that I'm happy to see you hinting at) was that if you come into office as a progressive prosecutor without any plan to deal with the people in your office or in law enforcement who aren't on board, then that's really the more immediate failure. You can't just say, "I would have been successful if not for my detractors," b…

I mean, you have basically no control over law enforcement if they decide to arbitrarily slow down arrests or protest your leadership. This has been one of the more consistent issues in American politics and you can see it when the police union doesn't get their way they have a huge tantrum and make things worse for everyone involved.

This isn't really a statement on Boudin did or did not do since I don't have that knowledge but rather from separate experience seeing law enforcement shit itself during other elections.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by mghackerlady »

baggy_trough wrote: post #96
mghackerlady wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the far right will collaborate with people more left on the political spectrum if it benefits them. Think the molotov-ribbentrop pact. The nazis benefited from stalling any soviet aggression and the soviets got poland before going to war with germany

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I was using an example to back up my statement, nobody with basic knowledge of rhetoric would see it as a 1:1 comparison

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by jaggederest »

sleepybrett wrote: post #72
Snow_Falls wrote: post #18

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I would agree with you, I see people like Jeff Bezos who's unfathomably wealthy but also treats his workers so terribly that they have to pee in bottles and I wonder why? What compels someone to so obssesively seek wealth that they must treat people like that. I can only see it as some sort of mental illness. When someone compulsively hoards trinkets to the detriment of all around them, we call that a disease and I d…

To be fair, I don't think jeff has proclaimed that their drivers need to pee in bottles. That's all mid level managers trying to show gains to their up-line reports. Jeff (and the board) wonders if deliveries could be more efficient, and wants to find efficiencies to report to the board and the shareholders. However it's fucking dave, 6+ layers below jeff that is firing drivers for missing unreasonably tight delivery…

The purpose of a system is what it does. If you're in control of a company, and that company is an "orphan crushing machine", it's your responsibility because ultimately someone must be responsible. You could argue the board shares responsibility, and certainly every high level manager endorses it.

You have to say "Deliveries should be as efficient as is consistent with basic decency, anyone delivering Amazon packages will have breaks and schedules that are reasonable and achievable", in the same way that he mandated APIs[1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18916406

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by nielsbot »

thrance wrote: post #81
burnte wrote: post #58

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> It’s sad to see how hatred toward progressives can distort people’s judgment. The status quo is easy, change is hard, and anyone benefiting from the status quo will do whatever they have to in order to prevent change. Progressive by definition want change, progress. Change is scary. Humans are most easily motivated by fear.

I think it's a little more than just fear of change. Garry Tan knows where his (material) interests lie, and will do and say anything to fight off those who would build a more equal society, even if it means supporting actual fascists like Trump. The ultra-wealthy are very class conscious.

It would be nice if billionaires could f off to billionaire island and leave everyone else alone

you won capitalism. go away.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by tptacek »

phonon wrote: post #99
tptacek wrote: post #85

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Is there a fact pattern where Lim could have bank-shot criminal liability despite not herself being a covered entity? Probably? She could have misrepresented who she was and obtained the records through fraud, for instance. Again, my thing here is, if you're going to put those kinds of accusations on the table, and you're a district attorney , you'd better come correct. The facts presented in the document the DA's of…

If you induce someone to violate HIPAA who is covered by it (like say a nurse at a hospital), you can be criminally liable. There is no carve-out for journalists. BOTH the person who gave the record and the person who induced them to give it could be liable (not in the same way, possibly). In any case, you seemed to think there was a bright line rule of some sort, that "At one point it accuses Lim of "violating HIPAA…

No, I don't think I will. Reporters covering public policy matters and obtaining records from covered entities have First Amendment protection arguments that a conspiracy among insiders and external mules to sell health information don't have. But none of this is my point. I'm not arguing that it would be impossible for Boudin's office to allege wrongdoing. I'm arguing that they failed to do so. Like, a really basic thing: where'd she get the X-Rays from? The allegation doesn't say.

I'm commenting on the specific thing Boudin's office (inexplicably) wrote about this particular reporter. I'm not making a grand statement about HIPAA.

(I don't know anything about the reporter other than that they worked for ABC7 in SFBA and not like GatewayPundit).

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by Barrin92 »

mghackerlady wrote: post #91
SwellJoe wrote: post #11

I've come to be convinced that having a huge amount of money causes some kind of mental breakage, a need to control other people that is unhealthy for everyone it touches. I don't mind everyone having or expressing an opinion, even opinions I disagree with, but when someone uses their disproportionate wealth and influence to spread misinformation and disrupt and dismantle democratic systems it crosses a line. It take…

How much money do you think causes it? Additionally, perhaps it's the other way around. Being someone who's predisposed to those tendencies is better at gaining capital. I think some good evidence for this is that Ken Olsen, by most accounts, was a saint and he owned DEC. Him having a substantial amount of wealth didn't turn him evil, so perhaps either he didn't hit that threshold or got lucky enough to not need the…

>think some good evidence for this is that Ken Olsen, by most accounts, was a saint and he owned DEC

You're right that the money itself does not cause it but what mattered with people like Olsen was that he had a Scandinavian background and was born in the 1920s. 'Saint' is a telling description because people like him came out of a, not necessarily explicit but still functioning culturally Christian environment with virtues that tempered the influence money had on them, he often remarked that humility was most important to him.

Very different person from the current class of individuals who are completely unrestrained by the values people took for granted for a long time.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by nielsbot »

samtp wrote: post #45
rationalist wrote: post #43

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Maybe I just want to eat what tastes good, and not have to worry about how what I chose on the menu is going to support a politician, political party, businessperson, etc. The "everything is politics" meme is old and annoying.

Just because you choose to ignore the externalities of your choices doesn't mean they no longer exist. It just means that you value your personal well being and comfort more than being informed about the results of your actions.

And have the luxury of being able to ignore them. That is a luxury.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by justin66 »

boroboro4 wrote: post #3

This is what great reporting looks like: well-written, transparent, and rigorous. It’s sad to see how hatred toward progressives can distort people’s judgment.

Given how many articles he's published in Reason Magazine over the years, Radley Balko might qualify as "libertarian" or perhaps "civil libertarian" rather than "progressive." Not that the labels ought to matter too much.

(I posted this article with its actual title a few days ago and it didn't pop at all, which is funny I guess)

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

tptacek wrote: post #27

The Chesa Boudin DA "misrepresentations" document, linked towards the end of this story, is weak, bordering on Trumpian. It highlights as "misrepresentations" cases where Boudin simply disagrees with Lim about a statement of opinion (whether his office was suitable forthcoming, organized, or deflecting). At one point it accuses Lim of "violating HIPAA", which is not a thing† (HIPAA constrains covered entities, not re…

> I've watched outsider-y progressives get elected into prosecutor roles and then fail their constituencies

Political achievement via moral/ethical/legal means does not work. We expect a single person with extremely limited power to assume a relatively minor position in government, then somehow defeat incredibly wealthy organized opponents, in addition to solving complex logistical and social issues, and to do all that without ever doing anything wrong? It's nearly impossible. Progressives need to return to the good old days of corruption and coercion if they want to get anything done.

Re: Garry Tan, the CEO of YC, accused me of unethical reporting

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Post by mghackerlady »

Barrin92 wrote: post #106
mghackerlady wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much money do you think causes it? Additionally, perhaps it's the other way around. Being someone who's predisposed to those tendencies is better at gaining capital. I think some good evidence for this is that Ken Olsen, by most accounts, was a saint and he owned DEC. Him having a substantial amount of wealth didn't turn him evil, so perhaps either he didn't hit that threshold or got lucky enough to not need the…

>think some good evidence for this is that Ken Olsen, by most accounts, was a saint and he owned DEC You're right that the money itself does not cause it but what mattered with people like Olsen was that he had a Scandinavian background and was born in the 1920s. 'Saint' is a telling description because people like him came out of a, not necessarily explicit but still functioning culturally Christian environment with…

if the US of all places isn't a culturally christian environment I don't know what is
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