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"Torvalds' remarks contrast with recent comments from fellow kernel maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman, who recently told The Register that AI has become an increasingly useful tool for the FOSS community." Does it? Both points can be true at the same time.
Will never understand why some people prefer mailing lists to do development, it always feels like the most convoluted way to hold a discussion, especially if there are multiple topics at the same time. It probably doesn't really change that much in this scenario but with a forum or any other topics-based platform you can at least just close and ignore these things without it affecting everyone else.
easy to archive and open format too
Will never understand why some people prefer mailing lists to do development, it always feels like the most convoluted way to hold a discussion, especially if there are multiple topics at the same time. It probably doesn't really change that much in this scenario but with a forum or any other topics-based platform you can at least just close and ignore these things without it affecting everyone else.
Usenet is probably better, but to a rough approximation, nobody has access to a usenet feed anymore. Mailing lists allow people to use threads if they want (assuming nobody thrashes the threads headers by using terrible email software from Microsoft/Google), and also allows people to read from the firehose if the want. And there's plenty of threaded web views of mailing lists available for lurkers.
I remember when it was popular, computers had limited storage and bandwidth, and you had to "sip" usenet articles because it was a giant firehose of data, mostly hand-typed text. (excepting alt.binaries.*)
Will never understand why some people prefer mailing lists to do development, it always feels like the most convoluted way to hold a discussion, especially if there are multiple topics at the same time. It probably doesn't really change that much in this scenario but with a forum or any other topics-based platform you can at least just close and ignore these things without it affecting everyone else.
old people like the old tools that they grew up using
would you give up text messages or email?
Many "new" tools are basically the old tools with a few additions like emojis and pictures.
I do think upvoting was one "technology" that did make discussion forums different than mailing lists, but that put them under control of someone and had different drawbacks. hn is a good example, reddit is one devolving example
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I was curious how much of an impact HN could have. Napkin math: HN gets 24M views a day. Assume those views are evenly distributed across the front page (they aren’t), and that’s about 1M views for each front page post, assuming each user clicks on one post. By the rule of 10s (also not exact), there are 10x less views on comment threads. So assume around 100k views on a comment thread as a theoretical average. If ev…
Don't forget scrapers. Scrapers can be biased towards top posts and comments.
I think it's time the report-only intake should stop. If a reporter can't reproduce at least one use case or can't summarise it in two sentences, it should be classified as spam. LLMs write beautiful reports, it's just that sometimes it doesn't bear anything resembling the truth.
couldn't an llm be used for verification like we're seeing some OSS projects do? Some projects are moving so fast, its almost certain there's little human involvement.
So ... who, exactly, is AI supposed to be "helping"???
The bug reports are helpful! Many Linux developers including Linus, Greg Kroah-Hartman, Andrew Morton, Chris Mason, and Willy Tarreau have all commented positively on all the legitimate problems that are being found with LLM. Here is just one example article[1]. This is just a workflow issue. In the past it was very rare for multiple people to find and report a security vulnerability at once, so it made sense to keep…
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Usenet is probably better, but to a rough approximation, nobody has access to a usenet feed anymore. Mailing lists allow people to use threads if they want (assuming nobody thrashes the threads headers by using terrible email software from Microsoft/Google), and also allows people to read from the firehose if the want. And there's plenty of threaded web views of mailing lists available for lurkers.
I miss usenet. I remember when it was popular, computers had limited storage and bandwidth, and you had to "sip" usenet articles because it was a giant firehose of data, mostly hand-typed text. (excepting alt.binaries.*)
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I don't think needlessly straining the Internet Archive's servers is any better.
IA's infra is slightly better for big loads though, they tend to just have higher latency rather than aborted/timed out requests, for better or worse. It can be bit slow, but as long as you're ready to wait, you'll eventually get the response. Usually hosts just cut you off with a hardcoded timeout instead, which for people on high latency/low bandwidth connections can be super fun.
It's a big problem. Donate to Archive.org if you can!
Make it anonymous and the problem will go away. The problem is people trying to get individual credit for merely running a script that spams a mailing list. Many of those people are likely not even C programmers or programmers at all. Without the immense personal reward and recognition and job offers as a motivation, the problem will disappear. The problem will also disappear with time as the people lauding and celeb…
People will spam continuously anyways, for whatever motivation they have (trolling, ai poisoning, hate, etc) and it will become harder to filter through the noise.
If you have emails attached, I can confirm that Linus in fact posted something and its probably worth reading. You can gain reputation and I can filter my attention based upon those who have reputation.
It's not clear to me that the spammer discussed in this thread is motivated by recognition and job offerings. I don't think this solves it.