Didn’t they do this like a decade ago?
WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "no evidence of human to human transmission" Directly contradicted by the WHO: "...spreads from person to person through direct contact with the blood, secretions, organs, or other bodily fluids of infected individuals or contaminated surfaces" [1]. [1] https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2...
That’s a reference to the early Covid 19 investigations/reporting. https://x.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152?lang=en
People always bring this up as if there is some collective responsibility for they themselves having believed an obviously politically motivated narrative. Like personally I'd just take some responsibility, admit I was suckered, and try to do better in the future. But rather with the context of how it's brought up, it's clear they're just still at it buying into new nonsense political narratives. "Can't get fooled again"
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#103This is the WHO announcement: https://www.who.int/news/item/17-05-2026-epidemic-of-ebola-d... This is our CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/ebola/situation-summary/index.html And yes, this is a big deal. Public health emergencies of international concern are a short list consisting of, in their entirety: swine flu ('09 to '10), polio ('14 on), ebola ('13 to '16), Zika ('16), ebola ('19 to '20), Covid ('20 to '23), monkeypox (…
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Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
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Let me make this clear: To hell with your historical collective guilt machine. I honestly dont care what people did before I was born. I had absolutely no decision in anything of theirs. Had no choice in any of that. Nor did I enslave or torture or murder people. My parents didnt either. Their parents didnt either. And somehow, Im responsible for shit that happened hundreds of years ago? Whatever. I dont mind helping…
Not feeling guilty and not caring are two radically different things in this context.
First, there are no charges against me.
I will not answer to idiocy like "your bloodline X generations back".
I am not feeling guilty simply because I am not guilty.
And I do not feel guilty about historical happenings I did not have a hand in. They are things to read about to understand how we got here. But caring? No. More like dispassionate historical context.
I fight against shit like "Collective Historical Guilt". Liberals here in the USA use this crap, like in worthless land akcnowldgements but do absolutely nothing.
Ive also seen a lot of republican and MAGA types also have their 'white' ethnicity weaponized. Its obvious when 1 side blames you on a demographic you cant change (skin color). You vote against them.
I will never support collective guilt/punishment. And I will not 'care' about some historical wrongs.
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
From COVID-era discussions (when virologists were briefly the stars of every talk show) I remember one explaining that it was less about fatality rates per se and more about the length of time you could carry the virus around and be nearly asymptomatic while still able to infect others. I understand the jury is still out on whether a virus can be considered "alive" but, like us, it is capable of replicating itself an…
Yeah. HIV is a good example of this. Without treatment, it is deadly pretty much 100% of the time. However, it takes a long time after the shut down of the immune system before a systematic infection takes over and kills you. That allowed for a deadly disease that's somewhat hard to spread (mostly just through sex) to ultimately go on a rampage.
I never thought about this.
So without concern for the humans with HIV* there an argument to be made that treating symptoms without curing made it spread more?
*obviously, this is just hypothetical. It’s important to care about the life of those with HIV. No banish them all to something like a leper-colony. Although it explains the logic for those at the time they existed better than a religious one did.
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
It figures: Right before the COVID-19 outbreak, Trump dismantled the White House pandemic response team and pushed to downsize the CDC—later pulling out of the WHO entirely. A new Trump term, a new pandemic?
In this case I'd guess the DOGE cuts to foreign aid are a massive, massive contributor to the problem. A lot of third-world countries heavily relied on USAID et al to keep basic sanitation and healthcare going.
They are. This is why the billionaire tech class is complacent in this disaster. Musk is already a mass murderer due his illegal sabotage of USAID (estimates of 600000 deaths already [1]) this new outbreak adds to his death toll.
[1] https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-new-yorker-documentary...
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#107Many of the people worrying about this should stop worrying. The average commentator on this website, if he or she dies this year, will be more likely to die in a motor vehicle accident or due to the complications of cardiovascular disease, or due to cancer. If you’re going to spend time worrying, worry about all those things instead. When it comes to infectious diseases, the flu is more likely to kill the people her…
But I do worry a bit about dying in a car accident, it's why I wear my seatbelt, drive safe, try to drive defensively. Adding both those risks together still is a higher risk than before...
The risk of dying is 100% for everyone alive.
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not feeling guilty and not caring are two radically different things in this context.
First, there are no charges against me . I will not answer to idiocy like "your bloodline X generations back". I am not feeling guilty simply because I am not guilty. And I do not feel guilty about historical happenings I did not have a hand in. They are things to read about to understand how we got here. But caring? No. More like dispassionate historical context. I fight against shit like "Collective Historical Guil…
Let's say you likely benefit from the side effects. It's not guilt, but just a lil reminder we are all in this together.
Also, we could talk about current colonialism: arms trade, mining, mercenary armies.
Sure enough, if you close your eyes hard enough you can pretend your wealth is well earned and unrelated the ills of the world.
It's rarely the case.
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. HIV is a good example of this. Without treatment, it is deadly pretty much 100% of the time. However, it takes a long time after the shut down of the immune system before a systematic infection takes over and kills you. That allowed for a deadly disease that's somewhat hard to spread (mostly just through sex) to ultimately go on a rampage.
I never thought about this. So without concern for the humans with HIV* there an argument to be made that treating symptoms without curing made it spread more? *obviously, this is just hypothetical. It’s important to care about the life of those with HIV. No banish them all to something like a leper-colony. Although it explains the logic for those at the time they existed better than a religious one did.
> So without concern for the humans with HIV* there an argument to be made that treating symptoms without curing made it spread more?
No, because HIV treatment is about killing the virus, and we don't have any that only treats the symptoms.
But there is an argument like that for the flu and colds.
Re: WHO declares Ebola outbreak a global health emergency
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By "imported ebola" you of course mean repatriated a fine American citizen:
> Brantly attended Abilene Christian University in Texas, where he earned an undergraduate degree in biblical text in 2003. It was here, at ACU, where he pledged Pi Kappa, a men's social club founded on a deep sense of Christian brotherhood, regardless of which denomination that member belonged to
Say what you or I will about religion, this is someone who was putting its better teachings into action. Meanwhile, you societal arsonists have jumped the shark long ago.