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Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

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Post by trhway »

markb139 wrote: post #45

I think this was also a “look what we can do at short notice” kind of exercise. Just in case a country was thinking of maybe trying to take over another set of islands in the south Atlantic

yes, definitely reminds the famous bombing raid on Falklands.

The distance of 2700 km a typical small ship - like say this Costa Guard cutter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legend-class_cutter and sure South Africa do have ships like this - would have made in 2-3 days. No risk and probably much cheaper compare to the described paratrooping.

Though i do think that the paratrooping was nice, just to show that as a civilization we can.

On the other side i think it also shows our civilization failure to develop long range VTOL - say like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piasecki_16H_Pathfinder - helicopters with pusher have been reaching 2000 km range, and additional fuel tanks would have gotten such one to 3000km, yet we just don't have such helicopters (or other long range VTOLs) around.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#102

Post by 4gotunameagain »

sofixa wrote: post #99
4gotunameagain wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Go on the Kremlin's official website and search for "on the historical unity of russian and Ukrainian people". Check the date, read the text, and understand that this was never about NATO or what Ukraine did. putin just is just a megalomaniac obsessed with restoring the russian empire/ussr.

Yeah sure. Count how many wars the US started and how many Putin did.

He is a power hungry lunatic dictator for sure, but Ukraine is on the US.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#103

Post by sofixa »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #102
sofixa wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go on the Kremlin's official website and search for "on the historical unity of russian and Ukrainian people". Check the date, read the text, and understand that this was never about NATO or what Ukraine did. putin just is just a megalomaniac obsessed with restoring the russian empire/ussr.

Yeah sure. Count how many wars the US started and how many Putin did. He is a power hungry lunatic dictator for sure, but Ukraine is on the US.

The US started more wars so Putin was allowed one more after Georgia, Chechnya and Crime? Is that your logic?

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#104

Post by 4gotunameagain »

sofixa wrote: post #103
4gotunameagain wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sure. Count how many wars the US started and how many Putin did. He is a power hungry lunatic dictator for sure, but Ukraine is on the US.

The US started more wars so Putin was allowed one more after Georgia, Chechnya and Crime? Is that your logic?

My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist. And the one spreading its influence east, provoking Russia.

And the one benefiting insanely from the war, without caring at all about its "allies".

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#105

Post by gaiagraphia »

gwern wrote: post #98
redanddead wrote: post #73

Very nice poem from a local: On windswept shores where oceans foam, Far from the bustle and noise of home, The island watched the grey skies part, With hope returning to every heart. Across the vastness the RAF flew through, With medicine, medics, and military too, Parachuting in with skill and courage on our shore, The impossible was accomplished to the core. Tristan da Cunha, proud and small, A community who always…

It is not 'very nice'; it's often generic and lacking in any insight or striking imagery, the meter is ragged and inconsistent while the rhymes are often padding or outright slant (through/too, shore/core?). But I will grant it this: despite the AABB quatrain meter making it look exactly like AI slop, the flaws and errors show that it's probably genuinely amateur-written (as does a '100% human' rating in Pangram).

There's a certain irony in that moving forward we're going to have to be 'imperfect' to appear as not being AI.

Spelling mistkaes, shit grammar, typos, et,c, just leeet em rock.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#106

Post by [deleted] »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #102
sofixa wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go on the Kremlin's official website and search for "on the historical unity of russian and Ukrainian people". Check the date, read the text, and understand that this was never about NATO or what Ukraine did. putin just is just a megalomaniac obsessed with restoring the russian empire/ussr.

Yeah sure. Count how many wars the US started and how many Putin did. He is a power hungry lunatic dictator for sure, but Ukraine is on the US.

[deleted]

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#107

Post by mopsi »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #104
sofixa wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US started more wars so Putin was allowed one more after Georgia, Chechnya and Crime? Is that your logic?

My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist. And the one spreading its influence east, provoking Russia. And the one benefiting insanely from the war, without caring at all about its "allies".

> My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist.

The one that grew through conquest and oppression from a small city-state to the largest country on the planet that spans 11 timezones and still lusts for more?

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#108

Post by 4gotunameagain »

mopsi wrote: post #107
4gotunameagain wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist. And the one spreading its influence east, provoking Russia. And the one benefiting insanely from the war, without caring at all about its "allies".

> My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist. The one that grew through conquest and oppression from a small city-state to the largest country on the planet that spans 11 timezones and still lusts for more?

Ahaha you are not serious yeah ? Are we talking that far back ? Okay. As opposed to a former colony that eradicated the native populace of the americans ?

I will not even continue the conversation.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#109

Post by mopsi »

4gotunameagain wrote: post #108
mopsi wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My point is that when we compare the two, one is vastly more megalomaniac and expansionist. The one that grew through conquest and oppression from a small city-state to the largest country on the planet that spans 11 timezones and still lusts for more?

Ahaha you are not serious yeah ? Are we talking that far back ? Okay. As opposed to a former colony that eradicated the native populace of the americans ? I will not even continue the conversation.

What do you mean by "that far back"? Russian territorial expansion and eradication of the native populace are on-going events, not distant history.

Re: Details of the Daring Airdrop at Tristan Da Cunha

#110

Post by 4gotunameagain »

mopsi wrote: post #109
4gotunameagain wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahaha you are not serious yeah ? Are we talking that far back ? Okay. As opposed to a former colony that eradicated the native populace of the americans ? I will not even continue the conversation.

What do you mean by "that far back"? Russian territorial expansion and eradication of the native populace are on-going events, not distant history.

Goodbye, keep pressing F5. Or you know, go and get some sun. It's saturday.
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