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Re: Claude for Legal

#101

Post by teeray »

droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

Can’t #1 be solved with the stroke of a pen? “Legal queries to LLMs shall be subject to the same attorney-client privilege”

Re: Claude for Legal

#103

Post by e12e »

nozzlegear wrote: post #43
OkWing99 wrote: post #8

Anthropics New Playbook: `/loop 2days /create-new-{insert-industry}-md-files` This is only for PR. No one checks what's in those docs, or if these are real, valid or ethical. The goal here is for all news outlets to pick them up. You're not the audience. Given the amount of free PR they can get from some AI-generated .md files, I'd probably do the same if I was on their boat. Right now, I don't think any other AI com…

There's going to be a "Claude for wiping my ass" at this rate.

You jest, but combination of robotics and AI is likely the only constructive way to deal with the population getting older.

Re: Claude for Legal

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Post by trollbridge »

bryant wrote: post #11
droidjj wrote: post #7

As a lawyer, I'm excited about this, but there are two roadblocks that I'm not sure how Anthropic will navigate: (1) For non-lawyers who use these skills/connectors/whatchamacallits to try to get legal advice, their communications are not protected by attorney-client privilege. This will absolutely bite some people in the ass. (2) If a lawyer uses this with confidential client information (which, to the uninitiated,…

Citation for #1 - https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2026/03/united-states-v-he... > Judge Rakoff of the Southern District of New York — addressing “a question of first impression nationwide” — ruled that written exchanges between a criminal defendant and generative AI platform Claude were not protected by attorney-client privilege or the work product doctrine. Much more to it than this one-liner that I pulled out, bu…

Good argument for using DeepSeek with an anonymous form of payment.

Discovery in China will be a tad more difficult…

Re: Claude for Legal

#105

Post by trollbridge »

miki123211 wrote: post #63
bryant wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation for #1 - https://harvardlawreview.org/blog/2026/03/united-states-v-he... > Judge Rakoff of the Southern District of New York — addressing “a question of first impression nationwide” — ruled that written exchanges between a criminal defendant and generative AI platform Claude were not protected by attorney-client privilege or the work product doctrine. Much more to it than this one-liner that I pulled out, bu…

In the US, are Google queries about the law considered attorney-client privilege? What about library records? Browser history? Google Maps / Uber / car travel history (when traveling to an attorney's office)? If somebody Googles "best attorney for murder NYC" a day after a murder is committed but before any case is filed against them (so they clearly had some reason to expect that case), could that be used as evidenc…

Hans Reisee rather infamously checked out a book from the library about how to kill someone and hide the evidence.

Re: Claude for Legal

#106

Post by trollbridge »

apwheele wrote: post #97
nerdsniper wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For (1) it's so wild to me that if I pay a lawyer, they can run the same queries on these tools and they are protected by attorney-client privilege, but if I do it to help me prepare my defense, then the exact same queries would be subject to subpoena/discovery. Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and…

So not familiar with the caselaw around work product, but if you use an API tool directly and not the different chat tools, the queries are not permanently cached for anyone to give up in the end. So basically if you use any of the CLI tools, there is nothing for OpenAI, Anthropic, etc. to give the courts. Online ChatGPT (especially the free version), are apparently cached by OpenAI on their servers. (I am not sure i…

Indeed, there is no way my terabytes per day of API calls is getting permanently stored anywhere.

Perhaps an AI generated summary of it is.

Re: Claude for Legal

#107

Post by nisegami »

Shank wrote: post #3

It seems like they ripped out Lexis, which is probably one of the most important tools for lawyers: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-for-legal/pull/5 .

Can't we just use the version of the codebase from before that change?

Re: Claude for Legal

#108

Post by trollbridge »

palmotea wrote: post #30
nerdsniper wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For (1) it's so wild to me that if I pay a lawyer, they can run the same queries on these tools and they are protected by attorney-client privilege, but if I do it to help me prepare my defense, then the exact same queries would be subject to subpoena/discovery. Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and…

> Does anyone know if there exists any OPSEC procedure for me to use third party tools like this for my own concerning legal questions that is both ethical and allows me to be confident that my interactions won't land in discovery documents? Isn't that a fundamental misunderstanding? Would "OPSEC" like that amount to destruction of evidence or contempt of court or something like that? Like if all your incriminating d…

Your only practical defence is to set up a local LLM that destroys records in a predictable way (immediately, on a time table and so forth) and then ensure however you access that doesn’t leave any traces either.

And then you need to consistently use this for purposes other than crime.

Re: Claude for Legal

#109

Post by sahn44 »

dsr_ wrote: post #14
ares623 wrote: post #4

Does anyone find it weird that Anthropic's Github org is `anthropics` (with an 's') and the `anthropic` username is owned by some random dude in Australia? Imagine the shenanigans someone can achieve with that user.

One would think that they could spontaneously offer him a hundred million dollars for it and solve the problem. I half-suspect they threatened him and he stuck to his guns.

A mere .01% equity seems fair

Re: Claude for Legal

#110

Post by [deleted] »

dolebirchwood wrote: post #47
Shank wrote: post #3

It seems like they ripped out Lexis, which is probably one of the most important tools for lawyers: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-for-legal/pull/5 .

> at partner request Curious if Thomson Reuters (Westlaw) felt threatened if they were this compelled to moan about it. All it does is make me wonder how well these skills perform when paired with Lexis (if possible?) instead of Westlaw.

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