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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by iLoveOncall »

rustyhancock wrote: post #11
internet2000 wrote: post #7

> Apple runs on Anthropic at this point. Anthropic is powering a lot of the stuff Apple is doing internally in terms of product development, a lot of their internal tools…They have custom versions of Claude running on their own servers internally. --Mark Gurman, Bloomberg https://x.com/tbpn/status/2016911797656367199

Apple seems to purposefully have decided to sit out the arms race. Probably smart time to rent and not buy if they plan on buying in a downturn.

Not participating in the war is the only true way to win the war, nothing new.

And in this particular war, it's even worse, the "winner" will actually just be the "biggest loser", contrarily to a traditional war.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Hendrikto »

coldpie wrote: post #70
ramon156 wrote: post #14

Unrelated: Yuck. a lot of those replies have LLM smells. Do people love being a hollow puppet for LLMs to fill in? Have people lost their identity?

It's trending in that direction. If you want genuine conversation with humans, it's best to start looking for small, private communities that have and enforce LLM policies that align with your desires. Public social media is universally trash, don't waste your time there. I think HN is still worth visiting for now, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here with the quantity of garbage-quality LLM articles…

> HN is still worth visiting, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here

I feel the same. Quality of both submissions and discussions have considerable decreased. It is still the best general purpose “aggregator” I know of, but it is not what it was. It is becoming more and more FotM hype and boring group-think.

HN was great due to the breadth of unique, interesting, nerdy topics, most of which I would have never come across on my own; and the insightful thought-provoking commentary, often by insiders with unique insights and perspectives.

Now it is just the same LLM agentic coding harness hype cycle astroturfing 100x engineer 37k LoC/day BS I could get from Reddit or LinkedIn or Twitter or anywhere else.

The moderators are still doing a fantastic job though! I feel like that is the last big differentiator from just being orange Reddit.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by ricardo81 »

ramon156 wrote: post #14

Unrelated: Yuck. a lot of those replies have LLM smells. Do people love being a hollow puppet for LLMs to fill in? Have people lost their identity?

Yuck indeed. I do find it offensive when someone uses AI in a conversational manner. It's one thing to use it to chuck up content on social media to attract eyeballs, but this is a forum intended for conversation.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by doctorwho42 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #58
suyavuz wrote: post #42

People become so lazy after ai. Even they don't check what they commit.

Anything that goes to production should have a 4-6+ eyes rule, at least one reviewer that can review the changes in isolation. If tools or LLMs can help them with it then that's fine, but it should always be at least two humans involved, one making changes, one verifying, and if something like this happens, they're both culpable. Not that they should be blamed for it per se, but the process and their way of working s…

The problem is that humans inherently fill in data in what the process from the world.

Our brain is designed to fill in gaps, it's why memory is so blurry when it comes to reciting the facts of what we saw in a trial.

It's why you could swear you saw "x" in the production software you were about to push. But it really comes down to expectations - and those expectations help reduce cognitive load/increase cognitive efficiency (resource usage).

So after more and more people get used using AI, you will see these mistakes occur more frequently. B/c it's how our brains work.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by signatoremo »

blitzar wrote: post #95
turtlesdown11 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gurman is clearly Apple's preferred go to for leaking info

Which only tells us that it is what Apple wants us to believe, not that it is the truth.

Did you verify that? What is the miss rate?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

ShyCodeGardener wrote: post #86
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

Whenever I see one of these comments, it's always from someone that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience. And many times there are more people commenting back that this was essentially the 1.0 version and that the current 2.0 version is much better. So as someone that uses none of these products (old voice assistants vs. ai ones) it's really hard to evaluate if any of these anecdotes mea…

> that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience

I've had enough bad experiences with products that never got better, or just got worse (Exhibit A: Windows 11). Like most primates, I am capable of learning, and I've learned that once a consumer product/service goes bad there's little hope of a turn-around. I accept that you're telling me that it's gotten better, but of the people I know IRL who also use an Echo, none of them have told me that Alexa+ is worth trying, let alone committing to.

Yes, it's on me for not giving Alexa+ a second chance, but I'm not willing to give Alexa+ a second chance because, as a technology product/service customer, I just don't feel respected by the industry I work for (...lol); if Amazon, Microsoft, Google, et al won't respect me, why should I venture outside my comfort-zone for... what benefit, exactly?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by Aachen »

ihaveajob wrote: post #53
j-kent wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not about contributing to the conversation — it's about the fake internet points.

I find it hilarious that your comment has an emdash.

And the "it's not x, it's y" pattern. It's parody :)

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by torben-friis »

Hendrikto wrote: post #102
coldpie wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's trending in that direction. If you want genuine conversation with humans, it's best to start looking for small, private communities that have and enforce LLM policies that align with your desires. Public social media is universally trash, don't waste your time there. I think HN is still worth visiting for now, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here with the quantity of garbage-quality LLM articles…

> HN is still worth visiting, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here I feel the same. Quality of both submissions and discussions have considerable decreased. It is still the best general purpose “aggregator” I know of, but it is not what it was. It is becoming more and more FotM hype and boring group-think. HN was great due to the breadth of unique, interesting, nerdy topics, most of which I would hav…

I think it's a trend in the industry though. Engineering is known as a moneymaker and so a large part of the new generation is the kind of person that decades ago would have gone for finance as a profession.

Both the really old timey graybeard techies and the green haired alternative techie communities are reducing in numbers.

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