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Responding to tone but not to content is what a dog does.
looks like you ruffled some feathers with this one
Tone was off
Online age verification is the hill to die on
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#102And the piece nobody is even considering...
Responsible parents don't have separate OS accounts for their children.
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When I read those seemingly outrageous claims, I didn't immediately dismiss the author. I allowed him to substantiate the claims and kept reading. I found myself agreeing with his argument and his train of thought of how, once digital IDs are accepted as a norm, they won't be unwound, and all online activity will likely require them and then, as he says, "Your children will never know what it was like to think freely…
Nah that’s silly, because Google has been doing all that already for the past quarter century. This “age verification” shit isn’t going to move the needle on the Google-created dystopia we already have. The time to worry about not having a digital cage was quite awhile ago. Instead tech people pushed Chrome and Android and Gmail and ads onto us.
Chrome, Android, and Gmail are optional to use.
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The best way to not be in a digital cage is to opt out of the current digital products. Would that be such a bad thing? Frankly I would welcome a world in which kids are not using Instagram or TikTok. They don’t have to live in a cage if we don’t let them in the cage. Personally, my plan is that when age verification laws get passed, every service that requires ID is a service I stop using. And I expect my life to be…
> The best way to not be in a digital cage is to opt out of the current digital products. But will your friends and family opt out? Their phones are always listening. They can just as easily listen to you, even if you go to great pains not to expose yourself to technology. They'll make a shadow profile of any avoidant user whether they want it or not.
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#106If it was the hill to die on, then we should have done a better job of stopping pervasive fraud, abuse and harm to everyone so that we wouldn't have been a need to bring in age verification.
The reason we are up shit creek is because large companies didn't want to spend 2-5% of profits on decent editorial controls to stop bad actors making money from bending societal red lines (ie pile ons, snuff videos, the spectrum of grift, culture of abusing the "other side")
They also didn't want to stop the "viral" factor that allows their networks to grow so fucking fast.
This isn't really about freedom of speech, its about large media companies not wanting to take responsibility for their own shit.
meta desperately want kids to sign up. There are no penalties for them pushing shit on them. If an FCC registered corp had done half the shit facebook did, they'd have been kicked off air and restructured.
So frankly its too fucking late. Meta, google and tiktok will still find ways to push low quality rage bate to all of us, and divide us all for advertising revenue.
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"right wing" is considered politics that people identify others in. > free to change at any time (so not an "identity" in any way) I'm free to change my name at any time, is my name not considered a part of my identity?
Right wing is not an identity either. Don't mess around with terms you don't understand. Do some research. > I'm free to change my name at any time, is my name not considered a part of my identity? You can change your name to conceal elements of your identity just like you could wear clothes that cover your skin color. So sure, you can hide elements of your identity but changing your name won't change your family his…
> Do some research
I have... (???)
> Just do a little research thanks
Just have an open mind thanks
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Nah that’s silly, because Google has been doing all that already for the past quarter century. This “age verification” shit isn’t going to move the needle on the Google-created dystopia we already have. The time to worry about not having a digital cage was quite awhile ago. Instead tech people pushed Chrome and Android and Gmail and ads onto us.
Chrome, Android, and Gmail are optional to use.
So is social media.
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#109Agree
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#110How are folks recommended to get involved? Contact your local Congress member? I feel this thread has a lot of passion but is missing concrete, actionable steps.
Heroes @ EFF have our guide (USA residents): https://www.eff.org/pages/help-us-fight-back#main-content
Of course Chuck Schumer won't let me contact him using this helpful tool.
Perhaps we NYers should organize a rally outside his office in Manhattan like we did for PIPA/SOPA?